Anyone Learned Aimpoint? Your Thoughts?

[HomerJSimpson]

My retort that when Paddy and I had a conversation on the phone he never mentioned a family connection.

As I said I don't need a bet, incentive or motive. I've said no to others and will say no to anyone else. I will do it my way and stand or fall by the effort I put in and the performances I put in. If I get there then two fingers to all the knockers on here (can't use I25, aimpoint is crap, GPS are the devils work, chipping is all in your mind etc ad infinitum). If not, I'll get my head down, work harder, learn from my mistakes and try again in 2015. Thanks. Think this is taking it off the Aimpoint topic though

 

[Foxholer]

Looks like lessons in editing posts wouldn't go amiss for some either!

Hard to follow who's saying/quoting what!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

My retort that when Paddy and I had a conversation on the phone he never mentioned a family connection.

As I said I don't need a bet, incentive or motive. I've said no to others and will say no to anyone else. I will do it my way and stand or fall by the effort I put in and the performances I put in. If I get there then two fingers to all the knockers on here (can't use I25, aimpoint is crap, GPS are the devils work, chipping is all in your mind etc ad infinitum). If not, I'll get my head down, work harder, learn from my mistakes and try again in 2015. Thanks. Think this is taking it off the Aimpoint topic though

That retort was humour ? Oh

When did you do your aim point course ? And how long have you been playing golf

 

[User20205]

hmmm the whole of the professional circuit must be scared then by your drivel........

Are you seriously comparing your golf to those that make a living on the pro tour. You've got delusions of grandeur pal:thup:

You do realise the 'act like a pro' thread is ironic

Pre shot routines aimpoint you must be a joy in the monthly medal.

Do you talk about yourself in third person?:rofl:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Are you seriously comparing your golf to those that make a living on the pro tour. You've got delusions of grandeur pal:thup:

You do realise the 'act like a pro' thread is ironic

Pre shot routines aimpoint you must be a joy in the monthly medal.

Do you talk about yourself in third person?:rofl:

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[tsped83]

Time to stop bickering girls, not playing golf is depressing enough without reading this bitch fest.

Having a pop at Homer is a bit cheap too, I don't always agree with his opinions, as I approach the game in a completely different way, but each to their own and more power to him for doing it his way. Digging him out repeatedly just makes YOU look bad.

 

[3565]

Are you seriously comparing your golf to those that make a living on the pro tour. You've got delusions of grandeur pal:thup:

You do realise the 'act like a pro' thread is ironic

Pre shot routines aimpoint you must be a joy in the monthly medal.

Do you talk about yourself in third person?:rofl:

i never said I was comparing myself to the Pro's, it was idiotic comment bout players having a pre shot routine are scared of hitting a ball. Your obviously the joker on here does your hc reflect your personality :rofl:

 

[One Planer]

Ok gentlemen.

I know conditions are crap for actual play and it can be frustrating, but please let's try and keep it civil on here.

If the thread goes any lower you'll leave the moderator panel little option but to lock it.

You all know the penalties for ignoring moderator advice.

Consider yourselves warned.

 

[User20205]

i never said I was comparing myself to the Pro's, it was idiotic comment bout players having a pre shot routine are scared of hitting a ball. Your obviously the joker on here does your hc reflect your personality :rofl:

I'm not sure why you are so defensive, it's just an opinion, if you think it's wrong just state that

 

[Jaymosafehands]

Going back to the original post ( seems a long time ago now! ) I've not used Aimpoint but have used the Vector putting system. They're fairly similar in principle ( but not too similar, the court case in the US is dealing with that!) and I've been using it for about a year.

What it gives me is confidence on putts 20 ft and in ( or an emotional crutch ) that I'm going to get get down in 2 putts. If you want stats I've taken two shots off in the last year and my driving definitely hasn't contributed to that, neither has my iron play. It works for some, not for others. It's definitely not slowed me down, if anything it's speeded me up as I don't have do dither and over read lines - the science deals with that. And as I'm taking a couple less putts a round then that saves a minute or two surely?

I'd say don't knock it until you've tried it, but my Vector session cost me £40 - based on me having lessons for my long game on a regular basis I saw this as an investment on my enjoyment.

However the caveat to all this is you have yo have a decent technique for actually hitting putts - that's the starting point

 

[3565]

Going back to the original post ( seems a long time ago now! ) I've not used Aimpoint but have used the Vector putting system. They're fairly similar in principle ( but not too similar, the court case in the US is dealing with that!) and I've been using it for about a year.

What it gives me is confidence on putts 20 ft and in ( or an emotional crutch ) that I'm going to get get down in 2 putts. If you want stats I've taken two shots off in the last year and my driving definitely hasn't contributed to that, neither has my iron play. It works for some, not for others. It's definitely not slowed me down, if anything it's speeded me up as I don't have do dither and over read lines - the science deals with that. And as I'm taking a couple less putts a round then that saves a minute or two surely?

I'd say don't knock it until you've tried it, but my Vector session cost me £40 - based on me having lessons for my long game on a regular basis I saw this as an investment on my enjoyment.

However the caveat to all this is you have yo have a decent technique for actually hitting putts - that's the starting point

been meaning to come over the warrrter to see you Mr Grey...... And do the Vector with your Pro. Best of both worlds and all that, you don't know till you try like you said, you can lead a horse to water........

 

[Jaymosafehands]

Ahh Mr M, good to hear from you. Check out the facilities they've got there now - one stop golf, Hull. Great for winter!

 

[virtuocity]

The worst side of the GM forum on show here- by the usual suspects as well.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Not mute and banter or not I find that comment just a little insulting. Tied up doing other things and hadn't had time to read the thread since middle of last evening

I stopped taking stats of nay nature so impossible to provide actual numbers. Suffice to say from the 15-20 feet range I am much more optimistic of making it or scaring the hole these days as I know the read and usually know the break will be a lot bigger than had I looked at it visually alone. Reading greens pre-Aimpoint was always a weakness even if the stroke was sound

I have done NO work on my putting an haven't played a single hole on 2014 and so it's fair to say I'm not expecting great things early on. I will get back to it and already have a putting lesson booked before the main start of the season in March just to check the mechanics such as address and the path. On the back of this and given the place my swing is in now I am looking for good things this year. Just need to get the chipping sorted and I will be in a very good position (Homer's happy place).

One final note, the chart comes with readings for greens measuring 8-12 on the stimp which covers the majority in the UK. The idea for deciding what stimp to use is to measure a 10 feet putt on the practice green and start with your guesstimate. If the ball over/under breaks you can change the read up or down to the next level. I know many of you will say what happens if the practice green doesn't resemble the real ones. It has happened and with a bit of use and experience you can see after one or two putts if you using a wrong chart by the way the ball breaks.

As always there will always be doubters naysayers and those that just want to have an online argument without ever having seen it or tried it. I'm not here to convert and wouldn't dream of saying my method is better. What it has done is make me more aware of how slopes affect breaks and how we naturally under read the majority of putts. I have found it a godsend on away courses once I have right chart and it does give me a feeling of confidence on away greens. Placebo? Maybe. However if I can stand there knowing its a 10 inch break on what others think may be a relatively flat putt (and so will under read) then I can make a confident stroke.

Three putting doesn't go away. I can still miss from 1-2 feet where the chart and the read rarely comes into affect. That's solely pilot error and science, the four horsemen of the apocalypse or the second coming will ever eradicate but if the top pros can three putt I really can't see how you can use it as an argument for the inefficiency of the Aimpoint method

What this is basically saying to me is that you were crap at reading greens and you've had a lesson in how to do it?

 

[AmandaJR]

It strikes me as rather weird that there's a "product" out there which could help golfers score better and perform better at a massive element of the game and yet it is scorned, ridiculed, accused of being borderline cheating, accused of being a cause of slow play and a crutch for those poor souls that are absolutely useless or take the game far too seriously!

All by those who have never even tried it but (I assume) play this game for fun but also to try and be the best they can be.

Quite bizarre.

 

[bluewolf]

The worst side of the GM forum on show here- by the usual suspects as well.

But I haven't said anything yet?????

My tuppence - As someone who plays with a chronically poor putter, I'm all for something that improves confidence. I haven't seen anyone using the system yet (but I have played with Homer before the lesson and he putted well that day at Woburn).

It's not something that I'm overly interested in as I appear to have found a rich vein of putting form at the moment, but I might suggest it to my regular PP (As I'm sick of suggesting that he should practice his putting regularly).:thup:

 

[Jaymosafehands]

It strikes me as rather weird that there's a "product" out there which could help golfers score better and perform better at a massive element of the game and yet it is scorned, ridiculed, accused of being borderline cheating, accused of being a cause of slow play and a crutch for those poor souls that are absolutely useless or take the game far too seriously!

All by those who have never even tried it but (I assume) play this game for fun but also to try and be the best they can be.

Quite bizarre.

+1.

 

[Piece]

Now that the handbags have been put(t) away, my view is that Aimpoint is a worthwhile tool for those that think they need it. It has benefits for those that do struggle to read greens, but it also works for full blown pros too that are good putters anyway. I know local club pros and those that occasionally do GM teaching sections that do Aimpoint. I can see the benefit as it takes some of the complexity out of putting.

Personally it's not for me at the moment. I like to feel and work out a putt, rather than mechanically trust a chart. Yet I was the same skeptic about VIBEs in putters until I used one years ago and now think it is the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[Foxholer]

It strikes me as rather weird that there's a "product" out there which could help golfers score better and perform better at a massive element of the game and yet it is scorned, ridiculed, accused of being borderline cheating, accused of being a cause of slow play and a crutch for those poor souls that are absolutely useless or take the game far too seriously!

All by those who have never even tried it but (I assume) play this game for fun but also to try and be the best they can be.

Quite bizarre.

:rofl:

Could well be worth saving that post Amanda. Almost certainly applicable, perhaps with minor adjustment, elsewhere!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Now that the handbags have been put(t) away, my view is that Aimpoint is a worthwhile tool for those that think they need it. It has benefits for those that do struggle to read greens, but it also works for full blown pros too that are good putters anyway. I know local club pros and those that occasionally do GM teaching sections that do Aimpoint. I can see the benefit as it takes some of the complexity out of putting.

Personally it's not for me at the moment. I like to feel and work out a putt, rather than mechanically trust a chart. Yet I was the same skeptic about VIBEs in putters until I used one years ago and now think it is the best thing since sliced bread.

Fair comment :thup:

For those that need an emotional crutch then it may be a good thing, for those that can already read a green to a reasonable level then it's probably a waste of money.

I can read greens I just struggle to hit the putt at the correct pace