Anyone Learned Aimpoint? Your Thoughts?

[JustOne]

The stack and tilt of putting.

New putting laws VS old putting laws except nothing has changed and the new way is the same as the old way that pros always taught yet no one understood them and everyone just got confused, missing 6ft putts all the time. I made putts (and all the pros won majors in the past) without having to know the new OR the old putting laws and I'll continue to do so, sounds like snake oil and I need to know how many pros have won on tour using this method before I can embrace any change whatsoever.

Now... do I need more weight into my left side or not?

 

[Foxholer]

You know as well as I do no one is slow, everyone plays ready golf and having a chart to read a green before every putt won't add to an already painfully slow pace of play for some.

I love it when you dress your opinion up as fact, it just reinforces my guesses!:thup:

What are you going on about?

Have you actually seen it in action? I have, by several different players, and it's no slower, and quite possibly actually quicker, than the 'traditional' method.

 

[3565]

Well, if I'm going to invest time and money into something that will supposedly improve my game I think it's only normal to expect a return on it. And let's be honest Mike, how many people would say it hadn't improved their putting after shelling out cash?

Virtuocity, I'd genuinely be interested to see your stats, once you can get back out on the course and put a few rounds together put some numbers up on here :thup:

So what your saying is before you even think of splashing the cash you want some stats from players putting since Taking up Aimpoint?

Expect a return? You can never say you expect a return, you have to work at it to get that return! sounds like your a wait for it to come golfer......

 

[3565]

You know as well as I do no one is slow, everyone plays ready golf and having a chart to read a green before every putt won't add to an already painfully slow pace of play for some.

I love it when you dress your opinion up as fact, it just reinforces my guesses!:thup:

Yeah that's what they are......... Guesses.

 

[User20205]

Yeah that's what they are......... Guesses.

No it's my opinion, equally as valid as you and foxy's

It's just another thing, pre shot routine, aimpoint putting etc. The preserve of the mentally weak IMO, looking for an emotional crutch.

The players that will use it will be those that are slow anyway, it will make them slower (ready for it..) IMO :thup:

 

[Foxholer]

No it's my opinion, equally as valid as you and foxy's

Again, have you seen it? I have, so believe my observation has more value than an uninformed guess.But you are entitled to an opinion, however uninformed!

It's just another thing, pre shot routine, aimpoint putting etc. The preserve of the mentally weak IMO, looking for an emotional crutch.

A ridiculous statement imo!

The players that will use it will be those that are slow anyway, it will make them slower (ready for it..) IMO :thup:

Not something I noted from my observations. Perhaps a more consistent time, but not slower overall. The 'clutch' putts were actually noticeably quicker!

 

[User20205]

Weakness masquerading as a scientific approach!!

Putting should be the most straight forward part of the game, why make it more complicated unless really you're a bit scared of it?

I do however recognise the fact that your observations are more valid than others' opinion:rofl:

I too have observed !! With some I've played with on here.....pre shot etc and sloooooow:thup:

Do you do it yourself foxy??

 

[virtuocity]

The preserve of the mentally weak IMO, looking for an emotional crutch.

If this wasn't the most stupid thing I've read today, I might have been insulted.

 

[Foxholer]

Do you do it yourself foxy??

No. I've already stated that. Can't justify the cost!

Or is it emotional weakness! Fear of disrupting already pretty reasonable Green Reading skills and putting stats.

Doesn't alter any opinion I have on it's validity, or the invalidity of rejecting it out of hand, though!

 

[User20205]

No. I've already stated that. Can't justify the cost!

Or is it emotional weakness! Fear of disrupting already pretty reasonable Green Reading skills and putting stats.

Doesn't alter any opinion I have on it's validity, or the invalidity of rejecting it out of hand, though!

Maybe you don't need it... Maybe the force is strong !!:thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Aim point ?! Well I point my putter where I'm aiming and then hit it ? Does that count

I'm going to guess Homer has done it and has said it has improved his putting but hasn't improved the scoring or handicap

Reading this thread I'm expecting some big handicap drops this year

People do realise we are just amateurs having fun ?

 

[User20205]

If this wasn't the most stupid thing I've read today, I might have been insulted.

Most of the stuff I post is nonsense, and normally I'd agree. In this case & with pre shot routines I just reckon that those who invest in them are actually a bit scared of hitting the ball.


Please don't be insulted...think of the hours of counselling :rofl:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I've asked Homer to tell show us his stats improvement wit Aimpoint, but he seems to have adopted the defensive mute stance again.

I'm going to guess Homer has done it and has said it has improved his putting but hasn't improved the scoring or handicap

Reading this thread I'm expecting some big handicap drops this year

People do realise we are just amateurs having fun ?

Not mute and banter or not I find that comment just a little insulting. Tied up doing other things and hadn't had time to read the thread since middle of last evening

I stopped taking stats of nay nature so impossible to provide actual numbers. Suffice to say from the 15-20 feet range I am much more optimistic of making it or scaring the hole these days as I know the read and usually know the break will be a lot bigger than had I looked at it visually alone. Reading greens pre-Aimpoint was always a weakness even if the stroke was sound

I have done NO work on my putting an haven't played a single hole on 2014 and so it's fair to say I'm not expecting great things early on. I will get back to it and already have a putting lesson booked before the main start of the season in March just to check the mechanics such as address and the path. On the back of this and given the place my swing is in now I am looking for good things this year. Just need to get the chipping sorted and I will be in a very good position (Homer's happy place).

One final note, the chart comes with readings for greens measuring 8-12 on the stimp which covers the majority in the UK. The idea for deciding what stimp to use is to measure a 10 feet putt on the practice green and start with your guesstimate. If the ball over/under breaks you can change the read up or down to the next level. I know many of you will say what happens if the practice green doesn't resemble the real ones. It has happened and with a bit of use and experience you can see after one or two putts if you using a wrong chart by the way the ball breaks.

As always there will always be doubters naysayers and those that just want to have an online argument without ever having seen it or tried it. I'm not here to convert and wouldn't dream of saying my method is better. What it has done is make me more aware of how slopes affect breaks and how we naturally under read the majority of putts. I have found it a godsend on away courses once I have right chart and it does give me a feeling of confidence on away greens. Placebo? Maybe. However if I can stand there knowing its a 10 inch break on what others think may be a relatively flat putt (and so will under read) then I can make a confident stroke.

Three putting doesn't go away. I can still miss from 1-2 feet where the chart and the read rarely comes into affect. That's solely pilot error and science, the four horsemen of the apocalypse or the second coming will ever eradicate but if the top pros can three putt I really can't see how you can use it as an argument for the inefficiency of the Aimpoint method

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Homer - are you related to Paddy Harrington in anyway

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Homer - are you related to Paddy Harrington in anyway

Well I talked with him when we had a five minute mobile call but I don't remember him mentioning a family connection

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well I talked with him when we had a five minute mobile call but I don't remember him mentioning a family connection

you really do need to relax - it's supposed to be a fun game

I'll give you a bit of a incentive in your quest for single figures -

If you are single figures by the time H4H day arrives I'll drop £50 into the charity

 

[3565]

Well said Homer..

 

[3565]

Most of the stuff I post is nonsense, and normally I'd agree. In this case & with pre shot routines I just reckon that those who invest in them are actually a bit scared of hitting the ball

hmmm the whole of the professional circuit must be scared then by your drivel........

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I've asked Homer to tell show us his stats improvement wit Aimpoint, but he seems to have adopted the defensive mute stance again.

A real demonstration of improvement rather than promotional guff, may change a few people's attitudes?

Feeling more confident over a read is not really a measure to me

Aim point ?! Well I point my putter where I'm aiming and then hit it ? Does that count

I'm going to guess Homer has done it and has said it has improved his putting but hasn't improved the scoring or handicap

Reading this thread I'm expecting some big handicap drops this year

People do realise we are just amateurs having fun ?

you really do need to relax - it's supposed to be a fun game

And the humourous reply to your post passes you by. Don't need any incentives thank you. More than happy to do it my own way on my own terms. And guess what. I actually enjoy what I'm doing on and off the course to get as good as I can.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And the humourous reply to your post passes you by. Don't need any incentives thank you. More than happy to do it my own way on my own terms. And guess what. I actually enjoy what I'm doing on and off the course to get as good as I can.

There was a humerous reply in there ?

Not fancy taking on my little wager then ? With aim point , swing changes , putting mechanics , good numbers during a club fitting , short game assessments all working together you will be well into single figures and the charity will be £50 better off ?

There is a pro inside you just itching to get out ! Release the pro