Anyone Learned Aimpoint? Your Thoughts?

[Robobum]

and I'm executing an elaborate system that has seen me have more putts go online and hole a few more putts then I did before, do I hole everyone, no, do I 3 putt, yes, do I have off days putting, yes, but that's not the systems fault, that's physical, like you executing a short game technique well one day physically but next day it doesn't........ Is that Seve's fault?

At the end of the day it's a learning skill that helps players whether it's Aimpoint, Trackman, Peltz short game bible, the linear method, Seve's/Mickelsons short game, Leadbetter/harmon/Foley/Golfing Machine teachings, Dr Karl Morris/Joseph Parent/Golf 54/Rotella psychology, they are there to help. Not to everyone's liking, but at least I've TRIED these out over the years and gained a little bit from each. You will go and pay good money for a fitting to the latest TM advertising claim of Loft up, if the numbers crunch then you'll buy it, if it doesn't and you've already got the right club, then the doubt is taken away. I didn't pay but I tried it out and made no difference for me.

Call me a nutter, I don't rightly care, but I'd rather be that and try then be a sceptic and not open minded to these advances.

I don't see what is physical about guessing a stimp of 8 when it is 9. Or guessing a slope is 5% when it is 7%.

If the greens vary slightly in speed (which almost definitely they will do) what do you do then? After guessing the speed correctly at bang on 8 on the 1st hole, the 2nd is 8.2, the 3rd is 7.9. When do the speeds change the read?

Don't need to get defensive!

 

[3565]

I don't see what is physical about guessing a stimp of 8 when it is 9. Or guessing a slope is 5% when it is 7%.

If the greens vary slightly in speed (which almost definitely they will do) what do you do then? After guessing the speed correctly at bang on 8 on the 1st hole, the 2nd is 8.2, the 3rd is 7.9. When do the speeds change the read?

Don't need to get defensive!

far from defensive as you are attacking.

Ill be interested in how you actually read a putt with your system, which I guess is self taught?
How do you go about it?
Do you Read from one side?
What you look at?
Do you access where the ball starts to break?
Where do you aim your ball and putter to?
Are you a break taker and die it, or take the break out and rattle it?
Do you plumb bob, a line burner, or visually see ball rolling?

What makes what you do better then any other?

as for the speed parameters you stated, I think on average they would be er............ 8!!!!! Not sure of your point there?

 

[DanFST]

This is the first time i've come across something like this. And after reading 47 odd pages, it does seem like a massive waste of time!

 

[Robobum]

far from defensive as you are attacking.

Ill be interested in how you actually read a putt with your system, which I guess is self taught?
How do you go about it?
Do you Read from one side?
What you look at?
Do you access where the ball starts to break?
Where do you aim your ball and putter to?
Are you a break taker and die it, or take the break out and rattle it?
Do you plumb bob, a line burner, or visually see ball rolling?

What makes what you do better then any other?

as for the speed parameters you stated, I think on average they would be er............ 8!!!!! Not sure of your point there?

I think you need to reread my posts, no attacking. I want someone to tell me that Aimpoint (or another system of any sort) works and demonstrate that - you aren't.

I do not think the way I do it is better than another - however I am interested if someone demonstrates that theirs IS the best.

I don't want to get into math with you but the average of those three numbers is not 8 and that was the point of the question.......If the green speeds differ slightly, your perfect read for 8 on the stimp stops going in the hole at what speed? 0.1 difference? 0.2? 0.3?

 

[bobmac]

Aimpoint could be useful to those who learn by the numbers, those who learn from charts and figures.
Aimpoint wouldnt be useful to those who learn by feel, by imagination and experience.
Who's right?
Both are
It's what suits your way of learning.

 

[DanFST]

Aimpoint could be useful to those who learn by the numbers, those who learn from charts and figures.

I agree, everyone has there own way of learning, however. From what i can tell it would work every time if you could quantifiably. input correct and measured data. We all know you can't do that. So it's basically adding your estimated readings. The formula could be correct but if one reading is still off, it won't work. And is pointless. I'm guessing Aimpoint isn't cheap?

 

[3565]

I think you need to reread my posts, no attacking. I want someone to tell me that Aimpoint (or another system of any sort) works and demonstrate that - you aren't.

I do not think the way I do it is better than another - however I am interested if someone demonstrates that theirs IS the best.

I don't want to get into math with you but the average of those three numbers is not 8 and that was the point of the question.......If the green speeds differ slightly, your perfect read for 8 on the stimp stops going in the hole at what speed? 0.1 difference? 0.2? 0.3?

I never said your attacking, I'm far from being defensive as you are as attacking.
You play off 2 so you have a good understanding of breaks, so therefore your routine and break reading is far superior (no offense here) to most. Therefore you probably don't need Aimpoint as you are holing your fair share of putts.
I stand corrected again, 8ish then...... The chart has stimp of 8 9 10 11 12, so the speed could be 8.5 so do you round up or down, me I'll round it up as if I'm going to miss it will be on the high side as it still got a chance of goin in, and like you said you gain from experience..

Ok ok im not here to convert you I'm just passing on how it works and you need proof. Proof is in the doing and go find out and no amount of posts here will convince you. I've posted my putting stats here earlier and take from it what you will? I don't know what your stats are but compare them to mine and see if they are better or worse then mine. I play all over and on tough courses like Moortown, Allerton, Sherwood Forest, Hallamshire, so not all at my home course either.