Anyone Learned Aimpoint? Your Thoughts?

[virtuocity]

Sorry to dredge this thread up form the depths.

I gather there's an aimpoint app.

Does anyone know if that'd be legal and if so what other features you'd have to make sure your mobile phone didn't have.

Good question.... there was a 100000000 page thread about mobile phones recently but I'm still none-the-wiser as to whether they are allowed on the course!

I don't use midpoint- only Express so I don't need charts or anything. Just my feet, fingers and a prayer!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I don't use midpoint- only Express so I don't need charts or anything. Just my feet, fingers and a prayer!

That's what I use too.....only I haven't paid anything for the privilege :ears:

 

[NWJocko]

That's what I use too.....only I haven't paid anything for the privilege :ears:

It's a special Aimpoint prayer though, like the Lord's Prayer :ears:

Saw something on twitter with Adam Scott using it in the tournament last week. Was holding his fingers up in a "scouts honour" type of pose?

 

[richart]

That's what I use too.....only I haven't paid anything for the privilege :ears:

Many a mickle makes a muckle Gordon.:thup:

 

[3565]

Sorry to dredge this thread up form the depths.

I gather there's an aimpoint app.

Does anyone know if that'd be legal and if so what other features you'd have to make sure your mobile phone didn't have.

ive got the app, and it's more accurate by it giving all the individual feet up to 20 as apposed to the 5 10 15 20ft chart readings, and gives .5% in the grade as in 2.5 or 3.5% and up to 13 stimp reading. But I don't think it's legal to use in comp play as it's on your phone. If gps ain't allowed then this won't be.

 

[3565]

It's a special Aimpoint prayer though, like the Lord's Prayer :ears:

Saw something on twitter with Adam Scott using it in the tournament last week. Was holding his fingers up in a "scouts honour" type of pose?

yes he was using it as is the bloke who just missed the play off, he used express read to, can't remember his name.

 

[NWJocko]

yes he was using it as is the bloke who just missed the play off, he used express read to, can't remember his name.

How does the express read work with the fingers then?

Not something I think I'd do (never say never right enough) just interested how it works....

Do you think anyone will do the non express Aimpoint now?

 

[SGC001]

ive got the app, and it's more accurate by it giving all the individual feet up to 20 as apposed to the 5 10 15 20ft chart readings, and gives .5% in the grade as in 2.5 or 3.5% and up to 13 stimp reading. But I don't think it's legal to use in comp play as it's on your phone. If gps ain't allowed then this won't be.

Are you sure?

I'm not sure mobiles are always disallowed for use as a distance measuring device and if the app is just the same as a chart (even if it contains the data of extra charts) might it not also be available.

https://www.usga.org/equipment/overview/Distance-Measuring-Devices-FAQ/

http://www.usga.org/uploadedFiles/USGAHome/equipment/DMD flowchartv1-3.pdf

If it was legal it might be tempting.

 

[3565]

How does the express read work with the fingers then?

Not something I think I'd do (never say never right enough) just interested how it works....

Do you think anyone will do the non express Aimpoint now?

ok. Think of the green as a clock, the green slopes back to front (12-6), hole is in the centre, and your ball is pin high at 3 o'clock. Now you need to know the stimp of the greens, let's say UK AVE is 9, and you now need to find % of the slope, which lets say is 3%. This express read at the moment is for across the slope or 90* which is our example here! you would stand 2 paces behind the ball facing the hole (this accounts for the speed as in if it was 7 on stimp, you'd stand on right behind the ball, every step back from the ball accounts for 1ft of increase in speed) so stimp of 9 is 2 paces behind the ball. We know the slope as we face the hole from behind the ball will be right to left, Raise your arm stick 3 fingers in the air close your non dominant eye, the left side of your fore finger should cover the right half of the hole leaving the left half visible, once you cover half the hole with your fore finger look at the outside edge of your 3rd finger and this will be your break or Aimpoint for that putt.

Sounds complex but once you know how to calculate the slope plus speed it takes 5 secs to do.

now I can't wait for the barrage of critics saying, WT......

As for it taking over the main Aimpoint read, the Express is a quick reference just like plumb bobbing, but not as accurate as the chart.

Thank you for listening and I'm happy to take your sceptic remarks Dragons!!!!!!

 

[vkurup]

I did the course along with a friend. He was skeptical but tagged along. After the course, I dont use the book at all, but do the other steps, which I find useful. I am not a very consistent putter, so even if I read the break length, I would not be able to putt it that way. However, despite that I think my putting has improved - more due to the confidence than my putting ability. I am hoping to do the Express one at some point

My skeptical friend is a full blown convert. He takes his book everywhere. He apparently went around in 30 putts or something - which is pretty good for a 24 HC!!! He is thinking of doing a refresher in the summer too.

 

[3565]

Aimpoint does not help in your putting technique, that's hard work with a Pro territory. But at least you can get a better understanding of green reading thru AP.

 

[vkurup]

Aimpoint does not help in your putting technique, that's hard work with a Pro territory. But at least you can get a better understanding of green reading thru AP.

+1... also it does not dictate where your PP/FC should stand when you are putting..

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Do you need to have a custom fitted ball marker to use Aimpoint?

 

[3565]

Do you need to have a custom fitted ball marker to use Aimpoint?

Sarcasm........... You got to love it.

 

[Imurg]

Lmao, yeah you can do multiple breaks with it and there is a way of calculating it but if you can't grasp a single planer green read then I ain't going to try and explain that.

Jut re-read the entire thread and I still want to know how you read a multiple-break putt using this method.
Can someone please explain.....?

 

[Foxholer]

Jut re-read the entire thread and I still want to know how you read a multiple-break putt using this method.
Can someone please explain.....?

You are starting with the most complicated first. Not normally a great idea. Though sometimes that's just the way it is. The guy that took me for my Road Test for car license stated (afterwards) that being able to get from stopped to 3rd in the 50s Rover we were in was all he needed to check about gear changing work!

I believe AP splits the putt up into 'logical' chunks according to the different chunks of break, then finds an 'average'. I chop my reads into thirds anyway, or at least sections, so if there's multiple breaks I start on something like an average and iteratively adjust for the differing breaks - from the hole back to me.

 

[Imurg]

You are starting with the most complicated first.

That's because I understand the basics of the "1 plane" putt and also because I did just as many multiple-break putts as I do ordinary ones...

 

[3565]

Jut re-read the entire thread and I still want to know how you read a multiple-break putt using this method.
Can someone please explain.....?

That I don't know as yet, but I'm doing the advanced course in May. If I had a double breaker today, then I'd just revert to the normal way of reading putts. After May I'll know a lot more about it.

 

[Robobum]

The guy that took me for my Road Test for car license stated (afterwards) that being able to get from stopped to 3rd in the 50s Rover we were in was all he needed to check about gear changing work!

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Probably as fast as the guy in front with the red flag could run

 

[vkurup]

I can recommend Rory gets checked in for an Aimpoint... cant putt for toffee..