Robster59
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Not trying to trivialise a very serious subject, but this does seem to be the mindset of far too many Americans.
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You have to point the finger at the people who make the laws and they are very likely to be influenced by outside political and religious views.
It seems incredible to us that US presidents have taken advice from astrologers and evangelists.
It seems absurd that many Americans feel the need to carry guns but it's part of their constitution and culture.
A gun is a present that may be given on a teenager's 18th birthday, so you have to blame the parents as well.
If reports on the news that the Police took 90 mins to go into the school is correct.
They need to change this policy.
Parents asking for vests and guns to enter themselves.
That’s shocking, it’s their job to protect and serve.
Yes I thought they would not wait that long.https://www.bbc.co.wasuk/news/world-us-canada-61600914
He said officers entered the school four minutes after the gunman.
"They [didn't] make entry immediately because of the gunfire they were receiving," Mr Escalon told reporters.
But an hour lapsed before the gunman was killed in a shootout after US Border Patrol tactical teams arrived.
There is a reason why they have SWAT teams, your average American cop is not going to have the training, weapons, tactics or backup to enter a large building and deal with a shooter.If reports on the news that the Police took 90 mins to go into the school is correct.
They need to change this policy.
Parents asking for vests and guns to enter themselves.
That’s shocking, it’s their job to protect and serve.
Yes I thought they would not wait that long.
I take what I hear on the news with a pinch of salt now.
Thanks for clearing that up
I thought you said we were worse than the SepticsStats suggest that school shootings in the US are over 50 times more common than elsewhere in the world.
Britain has had just the one.
What is awkward about this is the biological concept of the IN group and the OUT group.
Both consider themselves to be the good guys and that is either the NRA or those proposing strict controls.
I would have thought they are all firearms trained as they all carry guns!I’m personally aware that officers who are not firearms trained are instructed to go to an RVP away from the scene to await further instructions until the specialist units have arrived.
That did of course rely on you hearing the message sending you to the RVP rather than responding to the scene…
Considering how often this happens I would be asking “ why they have not had the training”There is a reason why they have SWAT teams, your average American cop is not going to have the training, weapons, tactics or backup to enter a large building and deal with a shooter.
Not sure if US politics is allowed here >
Until something is done to silence the gun lobby, or at least reduce it from the massive influence it has in the USA, nothing will change.It’s all the fault of Transgender, immigrants and the victims parents apparently…….?
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news...alde-shooting-transsexuals-immigrants-parents
Until something is done to silence the gun lobby, or at least reduce it from the massive influence it has in the USA, nothing will change.
I’m personally aware that officers who are not firearms trained are instructed to go to an RVP away from the scene to await further instructions until the specialist units have arrived.
That did of course rely on you hearing the message sending you to the RVP rather than responding to the scene…
I would have thought they are all firearms trained as they all carry guns!
At the very least they would contain a shooter and not let him roam around the school.
It might be tactical to do this but can understand the parents not understanding why they are doing it.
How many kids can he kill while waiting for the swat team?
But it’s totally down to the lunatic doing the shooting.
But the ease of getting an AR needs addressing.
The police stopping the parents are well armed with rifles strapped to their chests.Sorry, I wasn't clear, I meant over here. Knowing that we do that over here, it wouldn't surprise me that they would hold position rather than go in; a sidearm versus an AR isn't a fair fight.