Jamie Donaldson does them at Brocket Hall or Woburn. Bit of a trek I know but in my opinion well worth the effort and the cost
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Jamie Donaldson does them at Brocket Hall or Woburn. Bit of a trek I know but in my opinion well worth the effort and the cost
Khamelion
Tour Winner
It was a 2hrs course, two course X1 and X2, there was three of us doing it, which to me is better than a solo session, as others asks questions, you may not have thought of and it's good to bounce ideas around as you go on.
On the LPGA, Stacey Lewis and LPGA World No.1 Lydia Ko uses it.
On a known double breaker you find the center of the putt take a reading there and use that number. We did it on a double breaker on Saturday and while some may think it snake oil, it worked. You could see the ball would break right then left. We stood over the ball decided which way the slope at the ball was, took a mid point reading, got our line, hit the putt accordingly and the ball went one way then the other and although none of us holed it, had it been on comp day, the next putt was a tap in.
I don't think Aimpoint is for those that cannot read greens, I think it is another tool in the box that you can use, I could read greens pretty well and like to think that my putting was above average. I did Aimpoint to confirm what I was seeing.
Put another way, let say on a the green I can see the break and would line up to what I thought the break was, but more often than not I would under read it and miss on the low side. Doing Aimpoint has shown me that even what looks like a small break can need a much wider line to avoid missing on the low side.
snell
Journeyman Pro
Sounds good dave....interested to see how you get on, keep us posted and I look forward to the next meet so you can read my putts 
Three
Tour Rookie
If you think that Aimpoint gives you a better reading than the "normal" method of using your eyes, what you don't realise is that your green reading by eyesight is a lot worse than you thought.
3565
Journeyman Pro
There is nothing wrong with my reading greens. In fact since doing Aimpoint for the past 4 yrs I've improved my green reading skills from what I've learned through Aimpoint. I could say that whilst waiting for my turn, I can casually look at my putt whilst leaning on my putter while the all 4 compass point reader does his read I can judge the slope percentage before checking it. It's a well known fact that amateurs under read greens majority of the time, I'd rather finish 3" on the high side all day long then miss 1/4" on the low side as that will always got no chance of going in.
But I do know one thing, if we played 2 different courses with one at 8 stimp and another on 11 stimp, think I'd have a better putting day and adjusting then yourself on the 11 Stimp greens.
What at you don't realise is that I DO have best of both worlds, Aimpoint and Normal, if I choose to use it, unlike yourself.
This for me is the only problem with this discussion. I get why people use it if they feels it helps, and I can understand people getting defensive when people claim it's a crock. But, so many people pro aim point spout this line. Quite simply, if it were that simple. ALL pros would do it as they have a lot more riding in it than us.
In regards the taking time. Personally I think slow golfers will be slow no matter what technique they use.
G
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Guest
my money is very much on Three.......
3565
Journeyman Pro
But the pros play on green speeds that we would find hard to cope with, week in week out and are used to it as they play virtually the same courses year in year out. If I went to a course where it's 11, I know that I can use it to help me.
3565
Journeyman Pro
A man of few words.......
tell me is that his handicap, his phone provider or his age?
So is the pace of a green the only benefit of aimpoint now? I'd imagine most good putters (which I'm not), can adjust to pace of greens relatively well. Much like players with better shirt games will adjust to certain lies they may find their ball in?
chrisd
Major Champion
One of the first thing they tell you on the course is to stop judging by break by eyesight as course designers build greens to fool players visually. It's all done with the feet and is 'just a method', no one is forced to use it, it is not slow and if world class players use it then I'm very content to use it.
Qwerty
Tour Winner
I don't use Aimpoint but I sometimes use my feet to confirm if a putt has break or not, this comes in handy on Moorland courses when the surrounding land can fool you.
Surely though reading the green with your feet is just another skill that needs practice as does reading a green the traditional way.
Am I right in saying -If you read it wrong with your feet then do everything correct via that read then you're missing the putt?
Surely though reading the green with your feet is just another skill that needs practice as does reading a green the traditional way.
Am I right in saying -If you read it wrong with your feet then do everything correct via that read then you're missing the putt?
Khamelion
Tour Winner
Exactly how many courses have you played where there is at least one hole, where you look down the line and everything is telling you the ball should break to the left, you line up, make you putt and the ball breaks to the right against everything you saw.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Can you detect a slope with your feet that's subtle enough move the ball! 3 inches over, say, 15 feet..?
Khamelion
Tour Winner
Yes.
The differences between a 0% slope and a 5% slope are very obvious. The differences between a 0% slope and a 1% or 2% not so much, but it is surprising how you can adjust your feeling to notice the differences.
On the day, we did short (10feet and under), medium (10feet to 20feet) and long (20feet and over) and while green was not at it's best, all three of us we reading the break and getting very close on the medium and long putts, while sinking all the short ones.
It's the first comp of the season on Saturday and while I'm not expecting to go out and shoot a first ever sub 80 round, with 14 single putts, I am confident that I'll not 3 putt any hole.
Kellfire
Blackballed
How many people blame a bad putting stroke on the read? Aimpoint strikes me as a gimmicky way of getting around improving your stroke.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Crack on with it Matey👍
Just don't take all day over it😂
Just don't take all day over it😂
Khamelion
Tour Winner
Aimpoint will not cure a bad putting stroke, if you pull or push you puts, you'll still push or pull the regardless of your read.
chrisd
Major Champion
It doesn't have anything at all to do with improving your stroke, although their speed course does touch on line and tempo.
chrisd
Major Champion
You should be able to with your size 14's
