Another AimPoint Convert

[chrisd]

so, without aim point how many times have you and a partner looked at your puts in close proximity? me and my pp's do this all the time. however, with aim point ever one has to be out the way whilst you straddle your putt and hold your finger out like a knob

its just another tool to make hackers think they're just like the tour players and add yet another routine to the game. probably the same people that wait for a green to clear then hack it oob

Well thanks for confirming that I wasted my money. I assume you've done the course and made your judgement based on what they taught you?

 

[Khamelion]

From observation , every single player I've played with who uses this has slowed the game down considerably.
What they also often do because they know they will slow things down when it's their turn to putt, is start doing all the straddling malarkey whilst other players are trying to play, causing more delays.

Hate it personally.

Not sure if it is a rule or just etiquette, but I read somewhere that you have 1min to read the green upon your turn and make the putt, Aimpoint Express gets you to read greens quickly and aims to have you line sorted in under 20secs.

good look in your Aimpoint, I would advise to get a lot of practise in on the putting green and on the course late evening on your own to get used to the system. The more you use it the more you'll learn and understand, and start scaring the hole more often. Get your routine down pat, and trust it. Will you hole every putt, No! But like anything new, it takes time to adjust to it, but I'm confident you will hole more putts.

I agree, going to get out to the putting green for some practice and time permitting get a few 9 holes in on an evening as well.

 

[MendieGK]

so, without aim point how many times have you and a partner looked at your puts in close proximity? me and my pp's do this all the time. however, with aim point ever one has to be out the way whilst you straddle your putt and hold your finger out like a knob. the people i play with have to wait for the aim point process because they would be trampling all over everyone's line

its just another tool to make hackers think they're just like the tour players and add yet another routine to the game. probably the same people that wait for a green to clear then hack it oob

I shot -4 today. 29 putts (2.6 strokes gained in comparison to a scratch handicapper). Had 27 putts @ Burnham on Monday (+4.6 shots gained).

so yeah I'm a hacker.

 

[hovis]

Well thanks for confirming that I wasted my money. I assume you've done the course and made your judgement based on what they taught you?

yes i done the course and the aim point express, and aim point speed class too.

 

[hovis]

I shot -4 today. 29 putts (2.6 strokes gained in comparison to a scratch handicapper). Had 27 putts @ Burnham on Monday (+4.6 shots gained).

so yeah I'm a hacker.

my pp who hates it shot 8 under last week. big deal

 

[chrisd]

yes i done the course and the aim point express, and aim point speed class too.

Then you absolutely know it doesn't take any time at all and if it does it's down to the player not the system

 

[hovis]

Then you absolutely know it doesn't take any time at all and if it does it's down to the player not the system

you have to admit that especially when playing in a football you have to wait for others to put as you have to command alot more of the green to get your readings. i suppose it depends on your usual routine. i use a routine i was shown by a tour player where as you spend little or no time reading the green and let your mind dictate pace and direction.

 

[MendieGK]

my pp who hates it shot 8 under last week. big deal

You've just said it's for hackers to make them feel like your pros. You're clearly wrong.

why does it matter how people read greens? I think people that plumb bob are silly, and people that say 'everything breaks to the sea etc). But I don't moan about them doing it.

Also given the aimpoint speed class is no more than a year old you must have been a bit stupid to fork out the cash 'when you hate it'

 

[hovis]

Also given the aimpoint speed class is no more than a year old you must have been a bit stupid to fork out the cash 'when you hate it'

i dont pay for the courses

 

[MendieGK]

you have to admit that especially when playing in a football you have to wait for others to put as you have to command alot more of the green to get your readings. i suppose it depends on your usual routine. i use a routine i was shown by a tour player where as you spend little or no time reading the green and let your mind dictate pace and direction.

This is a lot of crap. Most green readers will look behind their ball, fully walk around the line and then look from behind the hole. Even inside 20ft.

an aimpointer will take on reading halfway between the ball and the hole.

'Command more of the green' rubbish.

 

[Khamelion]

Appreciate that Dave.
When you think about it, how often on, say, a 20 foot putt do you misread the line by more than a few inches, assuming a green that doesn't resemble Everest......?
But how many times is the pace misread by 2,3,4 or more feet....?

Pace will undoubtedly be the key, but if I can get the ball firstly on the right line, secondly with the right pace, I'll make the putt, but if I have the line and my pace is a little off, I've a much better chance of a two putt, where as in the past a miss read with rubbish pace would leave me in three putt territory.

so, without aim point how many times have you and a partner looked at your puts in close proximity? me and my pp's do this all the time. however, with aim point ever one has to be out the way whilst you straddle your putt and hold your finger out like a knob. the people i play with have to wait for the aim point process because they would be trampling all over everyone's line

its just another tool to make hackers think they're just like the tour players and add yet another routine to the game. probably the same people that wait for a green to clear then hack it oob

I was surprised at how simple the process is, how using the express method is quick and easy, gives me a line and I'm away. I don't give a toss if people think I look like a knob holding out my fingers. With some practice I'll be knocking shots of a round of golf, it'll give me confidence on the greens and if signing off on lower scores makes me a knob, then so be it.

Everyone doesn't have to be out the way, as long as you are wary of your fellow players line, you just crack on, 5 to 10 feet putts, stand over you ball, step in, make a decision and putt, 10 to 20 feet putts stand over you ball, take one possibly two more readings, back to you ball line up and putt anything longer than 20feet you take two or three readings, back to you ball find you line and putt.

Takes no longer, probably takes less time than those people with lines on their balls squatting down and micro adjusting the ball 3 or four times, or those that stalk the ball from all four compass points around the cup.

**Edit, reading the previous post now, I see that you've done the course, so you should know that the system is quick and if anything it'll be the individual that is slow.

 

[hovis]

'Command more of the green' rubbish.

so how many time did you used to straddle your line of put before aimpoint? never!! if it breaks at the hole then you have to stand close to the hole for the read. when another person is on your line its a right faff

 

[richy]

I don't know much about it but what do you do if when you need to straddle your line you're standing on your PP's line?

 

[hovis]

I don't know much about it but what do you do if when you need to straddle your line you're standing on your PP's line?

in a friendly game you ask him to put first or just stand as close as you can without being on his line

 

[chrisd]

you have to admit that especially when playing in a football you have to wait for others to put as you have to command alot more of the green to get your readings. i suppose it depends on your usual routine. i use a routine i was shown by a tour player where as you spend little or no time reading the green and let your mind dictate pace and direction.

Great that you use a 'routine' but decry others who do. At my place i dont need to use the fingers and I never walk round the putt to view from different angles, but so long as you're happy to leave your PP'S to finish putting, and tee off the next hole- enjoy your golf!

 

[Three]

Then you absolutely know it doesn't take any time at all and if it does it's down to the player not the system

I'm only saying what I've observed but all the players using this have taken more time.

The problem comes when there are 2 putts close together. Normally both players can line up their putts at the same time, and player 2 is ready to go as soon as player 1 has played. Unfortunately when player 2 uses Aimpoint, he has to start his whole routine AFTER player 1 has putted, then it gets slower.

I guess those who don't understand how people can't read putts will never really get it.

 

[garyinderry]

Yet to come across an aim pointer. Neither played nor spotted one on a near by green.


Looking forward to seeing homer's video on it.


I'm still dubious to how it can work as greens are so subtle in places and you simply cannot take a reading with you feet at one point and that be applicable for the putt as a whole.


You also need to put a solid stroke on the putt.

Solid stroke
Right pace
Good line.


This helps with one I suppose.

 

[MendieGK]

so how many time did you used to straddle your line of put before aimpoint? never!! if it breaks at the hole then you have to stand close to the hole for the read. when another person is on your line its a right faff

But do I ever walk around and look at the line from behind the hole anymore? No:

you've clearly not been taught it properly.

its different. Doesn't mean it's wrong.

most sane golfers would say just using your mind to see the putt is ridiculous.....

 

[Khamelion]

so how many time did you used to straddle your line of put before aimpoint? never!! if it breaks at the hole then you have to stand close to the hole for the read. when another person is on your line its a right faff

You should never need to get that close to the hole so that you are standing on others lines. If after you read you have it at 1, line up for a 1 but the ball than breaks more at the cup, thats the rub of the green, or a hole that is crowned, not much you can do about that.

 

[Khamelion]

Yet to come across an aim pointer. Neither played nor spotted one on a near by green.


Looking forward to seeing homer's video on it.


I'm still dubious to how it can work as greens are so subtle in places and you simply cannot take a reading with you feet at one point and that be applicable for the putt as a whole.


You also need to put a solid stroke on the putt.

Solid stroke
Right pace
Good line.


This helps with one I suppose.

Lets assume you have a 25ft putt, you stand at you ball and decide which side your line will be, you then walk a third way up take a reading say 2, walk two thirds up take a reading, say it's now a 3, back at you ball you line up for a 3, get you line and putt on that line. I was doing that this morning and it works, don't ask my why or what the physics behind it are, arcs, decelerating balls, increased break, whatever, it works.