Andy Murray

wow all this praise for Murray ,great stuff and well deserved to become the number one in the world for his chosen sport .
now i have a question .will all this adulation carry on for him when he isnt number one anymore?
or will he get the same sort of hammer that Lee Westwood now gets for not being number one anymore .
 
I'm English and am a great fan of Andy Murray. Brilliant for British tennis and magical for a Scottish lad to rule the world I. A sport where 40 years ago most tennis courts were empty up there.
 
Norrin Radd said:
wow all this praise for Murray ,great stuff and well deserved to become the number one in the world for his chosen sport .
now i have a question .will all this adulation carry on for him when he isnt number one anymore?
or will he get the same sort of hammer that Lee Westwood now gets for not being number one anymore .
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Slight difference being Murray has delivered on the 'big stage' whereas, thus far, Lee sadly hasn't...
 
Norrin Radd said:
wow all this praise for Murray ,great stuff and well deserved to become the number one in the world for his chosen sport .
now i have a question .will all this adulation carry on for him when he isnt number one anymore?
or will he get the same sort of hammer that Lee Westwood now gets for not being number one anymore .
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How many majors has Westwood won again? Not the best example to use.
 
It's not Murrays fault, but I don't like his style of play. I like Fed's, Ivanisovic, Stich, Sampras, McEnroe. Murray bores me, as did Borg, Djocko, Nadal, Courier, to name a few.

It's an entertainment business, and I don't find Murray entertaining.
 
Norrin Radd said:
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so getting to world number one dosent count?
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Whilst I don't think Murray is a legend of the game.

His is career is far more impressive than Westwoods.
getting to number one is one of a few things needed to show an impressive career. Unfortunately, majors is the other and Lee lacks massively on that front.
 
Murray has properly upped his game this year and IMHO is one of the great tennis players. He does come across as truculent at times, but his service return is second to none and his fitness is right up there. I hope he finishes the year as No.1 by winning the last tournament.
 
Papas1982 said:
Its not a case of belittling his efforts. He has had a very good career. But those stats don't look half as good when put against the other three you mention.

He is Britain greatest tennis star. But has won 3 slams. 3! That is no way enough to put him above many other greats of the game.

When you reel off Queens as some sort of big deal it shows how quickly his BIG wins drop off.

For all the talk of him being unlucky to have faced such good opponents. If he had only had one rival, as many of the past stars did. He would IMO still have only maybe won 5 or 6 majors because Nadal, Federer or Novak are above him in class.

atm he doesn't have the status of those mentioned. That said, he has two or theee more years to go. If Novak does have a drop off and he reaches 5/6 majors then I think that lifts him into the top bracket of players.
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He has the title Federer was desperate for and will never get, and he has it not just the once either.

Murray will be known as a tennis great even if he doesn't win another grand slam.
 
Val said:
He has the title Federer was desperate for and will never get, and he has it not just the once either.

Murray will be known as a tennis great even if he doesn't win another grand slam.
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Im sure federer would love the olympics. But when Murray won his first, do you honestly believe he wouldn't have traded it for a a major?

rose has a a major and an Olympic medal. Should he be rated above woods now?

murray is a tennis great. Federer as well as a few others are legends. Murray still has time to join them. But ATM, he simply isn't n
 
freddielong said:
World number one, has he played the system or is he the best in the world ?
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Nah hasn't played system, could argue he's 1 or 2 in world (no lower) - think the pros play the same number of tour events roughly, Djoko certainly plays as much as Murray just he's lost form for either emotional or physical reasons, nowt to do with Andy, he's just got his head down and importantly improved that dodgy second serve a lot, back has recuperated fully and got Lendl back coaching, which is really key I think.
if Andy plays Djoko on current form Andy wins more than he loses imo. That would make him 1. Sorry to the Fed or Nadal fans, they're nowhere near no1 now.
 
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Papas1982 said:
Im sure federer would love the olympics. But when Murray won his first, do you honestly believe he wouldn't have traded it for a a major?

rose has a a major and an Olympic medal. Should he be rated above woods now?

murray is a tennis great. Federer as well as a few others are legends. Murray still has time to join them. But ATM, he simply isn't n
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Of course he would have, my point being is that you cannot overlook how much of an achievement winning 2 olympic titles is. Probably more difficult to win than one grand slam title, just ask Rodger.
 
the smiling assassin said:
Scotland's greatest ever sportsman: Andy Murray
Britain's greatest ever sportsman: Chris Hoy

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Sorry fella, you're just wrong.
Ever heard of the great Max Woosnam?

Scratch golfer,
A 147 in snooker,
A century against the MCC at Lords.
International footballer for England,
Played for Chelsea & Man City,
Davis Cup captain,
Olympic Gold and Silver medalist (Tennis),
Wimbledon Champion,
Once beat Charlie Chaplin at table tennis whilst using a butter knife as a bat!

......................................... any good?
 
Val said:
Of course he would have, my point being is that you cannot overlook how much of an achievement winning 2 olympic titles is. Probably more difficult to win than one grand slam title, just ask Rodger.
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They aren't any more difficult at all. They simply occur less often and therefor you need to have peaked at the right time. its more of a lottery than a proof of greater success.
Federer didn't manage that. The competitors aren't better than major entrants though.

rose won this year, would anyone argue his triumph was better than Stensons at the Open? He simply managed to have a good week. He's nowhere near the top 5 in the world this heat because of it though.

Its a credit to him for winning both. And is part of a legacy for him. But, the Olympic wins are IMO irrelevant when naming him as a great player. I remember Murray being introduced as an Olympic champion prior to wining a major and it was laughable. Nadal never had his tagged on the end of his intro.

In 40 years time, if Murray ends with 3 majors and 2 olympics, there's no way he'I'll be discussed on the world stage in the same like as Djokovic, Nadal or Federer. All three of them whilst also participating in the so called greatest era of tennis have had periods of dominance.

fwiw, I would honestly love Murray to have a good 2/3 years at the top and get 4/5 more majors which would raise him significantly in my estimations. But I don't see it happening.
 
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