Andy Murray

[Foxholer]

They do - just think Djokovic will have it because he wins on all services

Certainly would put Murray in the Top Ten as best ever

Mine would be

Federer
Djokovic
Sampras
Nadal
Borg
Agassi
Becker
Murray
McEnroe
Lendl
Edberg

Cor! That's some pretty exalted company! No way would I rate him above McEnroe or Lendl! And Edberg rates better too imo - his quiet approach seemingly diminishing his ability! All those guys have been World #1 against pretty solid opposition. Murray never has!

I'd rate Hewitt, Wilander, Courier and Connors as obviously better too. And that doesn't go back all that far either. Stan Smith, Arthur Ashe, Newcombe and Laver would be candidates a bit further back too!

But certainly the best Britain has produced - now that's a misnomer, better 'in spite of being British!' - since Fred Perry.

 

[c1973]

They do - just think Djokovic will have it because he wins on all services

Certainly would put Murray in the Top Ten as best ever

Mine would be

Federer
Djokovic
Sampras
Nadal
Borg
Agassi
Becker
Murray
McEnroe
Lendl
Edberg

Hard to disagree with that (not including guys I've not seen play like Laver, Nastasi (sp?) ), but I'd have Sampras above Federer (he quit way too soon), just my opinion mind, after all Federer has won the most. Wasn't keen on Edberg either, so I'll give that slot to Navratilova....that was a bloke,yeah?

Mac and Borg were using wooden racquets as well!!

Lendl was always my favourite (and the best) though.......oh and Gabby Sabbatini. :;

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You sure Phil??

Laver
Conners
Cash
Wilander
Courier
Safin
Hewitt
Roddick

Yeah I'm sure - Murray has been very unfortunate that he has had to compete against 3 of the best ever - take away just one of them and his Grand Slam count would be a great deal higher - I know it's a bold statement

Laver - not alive when he was playing so can't judge
Conners - yeah can see him being in there but picked Edberg over him
Cash - was a good grass player and decent player
Wilander - same as Conners
Courier- again solid player
Safin , Hewitt and Roddick - decent players no doubt but wouldn't have them up with the best

 

[jp5]

Yeah I'm sure - Murray has been very unfortunate that he has had to compete against 3 of the best ever - take away just one of them and his Grand Slam count would be a great deal higher - I know it's a bold statement

Laver - not alive when he was playing so can't judge
Conners - yeah can see him being in there but picked Edberg over him
Cash - was a good grass player and decent player
Wilander - same as Conners
Courier- again solid player
Safin , Hewitt and Roddick - decent players no doubt but wouldn't have them up with the best

So it wasn't a list of the top 10 ever but rather top 10 you have seen. Which is fair enough, but they are different things!

By any account that you can read Laver is one of the all time greats.

Murray is a very decent player but not even being in the top 3 of his generation it would be hard to put him in an all time top 10.

 

[Foxholer]

Yeah I'm sure - Murray has been very unfortunate that he has had to compete against 3 of the best ever - take away just one of them and his Grand Slam count would be a great deal higher - I know it's a bold statement

Laver - not alive when he was playing so can't judge
Conners - yeah can see him being in there but picked Edberg over him
Cash - was a good grass player and decent player
Wilander - same as Conners
Courier- again solid player
Safin , Hewitt and Roddick - decent players no doubt but wouldn't have them up with the best

Hewitt ranks higher for me because he has been World #1 (at age 20!) - as well as winning a couple of Grand Slams.
I'd put Murray at similar level as Safin and Roddick, even with plenty of his career to go. If he wants an example of mental toughness, Courier is the guy to show it! Even more-so than Connors, who would never acknowledge defeat until it happened!

 

[MegaSteve]

Sadly, Andy reverted back to his old pre Lendl ways ...


For me, best player I've ever seen was Laver...

 

[Tongo]

So it wasn't a list of the top 10 ever but rather top 10 you have seen. Which is fair enough, but they are different things!

By any account that you can read Laver is one of the all time greats.

Murray is a very decent player but not even being in the top 3 of his generation it would be hard to put him in an all time top 10.

Yeah, but to be fair its some generation when you are behind (in no particular order) Fed, Nadal and Djokovic.

 

[jp5]

Yeah, but to be fair its some generation when you are behind (in no particular order) Fed, Nadal and Djokovic.

Certainly a golden generation but for me each of those have a special quality which Murray doesn't have. Really like the guy though.

 

[Tongo]

Certainly a golden generation but for me each of those have a special quality which Murray doesn't have. Really like the guy though.

Very much so. But i'd imagine there weren't many generations where a player would have had 3 incredible players in front of him at the same time. One or two maybe, but three?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Certainly a golden generation but for me each of those have a special quality which Murray doesn't have. Really like the guy though.

Would say Murrays return of serve and two handed back hand is one of the best seen

 

[guest100718]

he's a decent tennis player, but if you use major wins as the measure of succes then I doubt he's even top 30. I guess its because the british tennis watchers have been starved any real quality players for so long he gets rated so highly.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Arguably the best player ever, certainly in the modern era for the two grand slams alone. He's been unfortunate in terms of the quality of the players he competes with but would that change? The next generation will be fitter and quicker and so there's no guarantee he'd be top of the tree if he had his time again