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And, we're off.....2016/17

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Some English teams started nearly this early when they went into the intertoto Fulham and West Ham both played games mid July.

We played Europa league qualifiers mid July and it killed league form towards the end of the season. Fulham simply didn't have a deep enough squad for all their Europa games and then playbPL a few days level and it showed
 
Rumours Messi has retired from intl footy having lost another final.

Appears the pressure of losing another one has got to him.
He missed a penalty in shoot out, not the first big one he's missed.

I hope one its just a response when feeling down and he will reevaluate. It p hardly strikes me as the actions of a team player. Looks like he's decided it's not worth the effort. And he can just mop up more easy records.

If if its true then as far as Argentinians are concerned he will never be the best ever.
 
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He's just overtaken Maradona as leading goalscorer in Argentinean history, not a bad way to go out. He'll never win a world cup though, which is a shame.
 
He's just overtaken Maradona as leading goalscorer in Argentinean history, not a bad way to go out. He'll never win a world cup though, which is a shame.

Quitting at 29. Purely for self interest and nit that of the team. For all his faults. Maradonna is streets ahead of him for international legacy imo.
 
Gotta move on some time but he's clearly not past it yet, does seem premature given a WC in 2 years. Does seem like self interest, he might be of an age now where he'd rather spend his summers with the family on the beach. 100+ caps is a very good contribution to be fair.
 
The Argentinians have never really taken to him in the same way as Maradona as he left for Barcelona at such a young age. Maybe he thinks stuff it. Does he need the long flights back and dogs abuse when he can stay in Spain and be loved. The fact that such a number are retiring at once suggests he is not alone in his feeling.

Mane - Wow. If that is the benchmark figure for the summer then we are going to see some whopping fees.
 
Mane - Wow. If that is the benchmark figure for the summer then we are going to see some whopping fees.

It makes you wonder who is actually making the decision to sanction these types of deals. I reckon it's the work experience kid.


It would be cheaper to buy Southampton's scouts.
 
I've not seen too much of Mane,but his goal record is bang average.
So why is he valued at £34m?
Cracking bit of business from Southampton.

And why aren't Liverpool going in for a Heguin or Benzema?
 
Stuart, that last sentence make more sense that the £34m just spent. Clubs are rarely that smart though.

Let's be honest there's very little common sense in football from top to bottom.

Mane is a decent player but not worth that type of money, but if Klopp wants him and he's not 5/6/7th choice then sound, the manager is being backed.
 
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