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Aye, I don't expect to get Hazard and Kante. However, I would take Batshuayi as a direct replacement, you aren't using him, one of your talented but never likely to get a match youngsters and another £50m.

That is about the going rate for a regular and proven PL goalscorer.
 

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Aye, I don't expect to get Hazard and Kante. However, I would take Batshuayi as a direct replacement, you aren't using him, one of your talented but never likely to get a match youngsters and another £50m.

That is about the going rate for a regular and proven PL goalscorer.

So you want Batshuayi, a youth player and £50m 😳

We've played a few youngsters this season, Conte wants to use them and with CL this season I can see a few more getting on the bench and even starting in the lesser domestic cups.
 
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Wondering if the Lukaku situation is any different to VVD, both players apparently have agreed terms and neither current club has been approached, only difference is Lukaku has 2 years left and VVD has 5.
 
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Wondering if the Lukaku situation is any different to VVD, both players apparently have agreed terms and neither current club has been approached, only difference is Lukaku has 2 years left and VVD has 5.

Tapping up happens across all levels of football and it needs to stop but whilst there's excessive amounts of money to be made it will continue to happen. The only way to stop it is by having substantial bans/penalties to clubs and agents.

I don't know why Liverpool just don't attempt to sign Southampton's ecruitment department, it'll be cheaper long term.
 
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Tapping up happens across all levels of football and it needs to stop but whilst there's excessive amounts of money to be made it will continue to happen. The only way to stop it is by having substantial bans/penalties to clubs and agents.

I don't know why Liverpool just don't attempt to sign Southampton's ecruitment department, it'll be cheaper long term.

Something needs to be done, more with the agents than anyone else!
 
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Something needs to be done, more with the agents than anyone else!

Agents will claim " they're only representing the player and getting the best deal possible" though.

Pogba's agent getting £20m+ For his move to Yernited last season was shocking.
 
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Agents will claim " they're only representing the player and getting the best deal possible" though.

Pogba's agent getting £20m+ For his move to Yernited last season was shocking.
That's why I love all these rumours, pointless until deals are done, Lukaku's agent stated Lukaku was 99.9999% signing a new contract.
Most of them couldn't lie straight in bed!
 

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So you want Batshuayi, a youth player and £50m 😳

We've played a few youngsters this season, Conte wants to use them and with CL this season I can see a few more getting on the bench and even starting in the lesser domestic cups.

Why not? You'll have to pay over the odds for Lukaku so why not offset that with some players who are not getting a game. If they have any sense Chelsea should put a buy back clause in at a fixed fee so if they come good you can get them back without looking foolish and losing a packet.

I think it would be very healthy if Conte did play a few but let's wait and see on that one.
 
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Not sure why he would go to Chelsea knowing that Costa is number 1 there unless Costa is leaving
 
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Not sure why he would go to Chelsea knowing that Costa is number 1 there unless Costa is leaving
Because as you've said time and time again, players want to win things and if Chelsea are agreeing terms with his agent, they obviously want him as well.
 

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Why do you think VDV fancies Liverpool over say man city?


Is it because he would like to move right in as the main man in Liverpool's team rather than have to win his place in city's team against the likes of stones, ottamendi and company?
 

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Why do you think VDV fancies Liverpool over say man city?


Is it because he would like to move right in as the main man in Liverpool's team rather than have to win his place in city's team against the likes of stones, ottamendi and company?

Or wants to play for madrid or barca in a few years and thinks it'd be easier to leave them than city?

No idea really. But for £60m ghe's do with my blessings, just hope he doesn't fade once he's gone. Fonte anyone?
 

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Why not? You'll have to pay over the odds for Lukaku so why not offset that with some players who are not getting a game. If they have any sense Chelsea should put a buy back clause in at a fixed fee so if they come good you can get them back without looking foolish and losing a packet.

I think it would be very healthy if Conte did play a few but let's wait and see on that one.

He's already played a few, but our demands are far greater than those of Everton's so they'll get their chances in lesser demanding comps and games and hopefully we'll see some come through, but it's a results based industry and finishing where Everton does is no good for us so you playing youth isn't a fair comparison!
 

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He's already played a few, but our demands are far greater than those of Everton's so they'll get their chances in lesser demanding comps and games and hopefully we'll see some come through, but it's a results based industry and finishing where Everton does is no good for us so you playing youth isn't a fair comparison!

I think if you'd had a stones or Barkley in your youth they may get a chance and grasp it.

In in recent years you've won countless youth comps but not too many make it to play for any premiership team. Let alone yoursleves.

Totally agree its results based and as a model you seem to sell quite a few on for a profit. But I think as far as producing players from your youth, it's not something chelsea consider a viable option.
 

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There was a good discussion on the radio about this a week or so ago. The point being made was that forget Chelsea's academy regarding producing players for its own 1st team, that is a total failure. What it does do well is bring on players at a medium pro level and sell them for a few million at a time. No superstars but solid low end PL and championship players. Whether they cover all of the academy / houses bought / signing on fees etc for that age group is not known but each year Chelsea sell some young players for a few million and keep the turnover coming. From that perspective their academy is a success.

What we will never know is whether some of those players would have developed better elsewhere, at a Southampton or Everton for example who have very good records on that front. That is one of the great imponderables.
 
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Liverpool Echo reporting Southampton want 65-75 Million for VVD and Salah also might be too expensive.

The gift that just keeps giving :)
 
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