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They've also put out a statement saying they won't be held to ransom over Salah!
Yesterday getting both, today trying to be cheap and snidey :rofl:
And, we're off.....2016/17
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Yesterday getting both, today trying to be cheap and snidey :rofl:
Chelsea & Manchester City only Premier League sides in 'Europe's top 10'
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Real Madrid leapfrogged Barcelona into top spot in the Euro Club Index
Real Madrid have been crowned the best team in Europe for a record 12th time - and won the trophy for the third time in four years.
So how do the rest compare?
According to a European club ranking list by sports data company Gracenote, only two English clubs - Premier League champions Chelsea (7th) and Manchester City (8th) - place among the top 10 sides on the continent.
Chelsea overtook Pep Guardiola's side as the highest Premier League side despite not being in Europe this season.
Zinedine Zidane's Madrid side, who also won La Liga, replaced rivals Barcelona at the top of Gracenote's Euro Club Index.
FA Cup winners Arsenal (11th) dropped out of the top 10, but remain above north London rivals Tottenham Hotspur (13th).
Leicester City, the last remaining English club in the Champions League before being knocked out of the quarter-finals by Atletico Madrid, were 48th, and Europa League champions Manchester United 16th.
The rankings are produced from results over the past four seasons, but the most recent campaign carries a weight of around two-thirds.
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'Liverpool perform like West Brom'
Mauricio Pochettino guided his Spurs side to second in the Premier League this season as the White Hart Lane outfit finished above Arsenal for the first time in 22 years.
But it is the Gunners who occupy a higher spot in the list despite finishing fifth and missing out on a Champions League spot for the first time in manager Arsene Wenger's 21-year reign.
"There is very little difference between Arsenal and Tottenham in terms of rating points on the ranking," said head of analysis at Gracenote Simon Gleave.
"Arsenal's consistency over the past seasons means that they have remained above Tottenham.
"But another season like this one and Spurs will overtake."
Liverpool (19th) also rank lower than Arsenal and 16th-placed Manchester United, despite Jurgen Klopp's side finishing higher in English football's top flight last term.
Gleave says the Reds' ranking reflects their domestic inconsistency over the past four seasons especially against "smaller" clubs.
"Basically, under Klopp, Liverpool performs at the level of a Premier League champion in matches against the big clubs, but at the level of West Bromwich Albion against the rest," he added.
Bournemouth were the most improved Premier League club, rising from 122nd to 97th in the list, while Sunderland dropped from 104th to 185th.
How does it work?
Teams collect or lose points depending on the result of each match, both domestically - including cup competitions - and in Europe, but the amount of points depends on the gulf between the two sides.
For example, a home Chelsea win against Sunderland is worth very few points, in contrast to a Crystal Palace away win at Stamford Bridge.
There is an extra bonus for an entire league if one of its clubs performs well in Europe.
Which country ranks best?
Predictably, Spain's La Liga remains Europe's strongest competition, ahead of Germany's Bundesliga and England's Premier League.
However, while La Liga may boast the Euro Club Index's top two, with Atletico Madrid in fourth, it is the Bundesliga that provides the most teams in the top 100 with 16.
Three of those - Bayern Munich (3rd) and Borussia Dortmund (9th), Hoffenheim (23rd) - are in the top 25, and it was Bundesliga runners-up RB Leipzig who gained more Euro Club Index rating points (702) than any other club this season and moved up 142 places to 58th.
"The league is stronger than the other big leagues in terms of depth of quality in its clubs," explains Gleave.
"The Bundesliga's 16th best club on the ranking, Hamburger SV, is ranked 82nd in Europe for example whereas the 16th best in the Premier League Burnley is 116th."
French champions AS Monaco, meanwhile, improved the most of any team beginning the season in Europe's top-100, climbing to 12th from 40th with a 578 point improvement.
Juventus's Champions League final defeat saw them lose 25 points and slip one place to fifth below Atletico Madrid.
The Euro Club Index
Position Team Points Index movement from June 2016
1 Real Madrid 4,442 +1
2 Barcelona 4,343 -1
3 Bayern Munich 4,053 -
4 Atletico Madrid 3,917 -
5 Juventus 3,910 +1
6 PSG 3,853 -1
7 Chelsea 3,582 +7
8 Manchester City 3,495 -
9 Borussia Dortmund 3,482 -2
10 Napoli 3,464 +2
11 Arsenal 3,426 -2
12 AS Monaco 3,392 +28
13 Tottenham 3,379 +6
14 AS Roma 3,340 -1
15 Sevilla 3,336 -4
16 Manchester United 3,334 +1
17 Benfica 3,274 -7
18 Shaktar Donetsk 3,199 +7
19 Liverpool 3,191 +1
20 Villarreal 3,122 -2
Real Madrid
Real Madrid leapfrogged Barcelona into top spot in the Euro Club Index
Real Madrid have been crowned the best team in Europe for a record 12th time - and won the trophy for the third time in four years.
So how do the rest compare?
According to a European club ranking list by sports data company Gracenote, only two English clubs - Premier League champions Chelsea (7th) and Manchester City (8th) - place among the top 10 sides on the continent.
Chelsea overtook Pep Guardiola's side as the highest Premier League side despite not being in Europe this season.
Zinedine Zidane's Madrid side, who also won La Liga, replaced rivals Barcelona at the top of Gracenote's Euro Club Index.
FA Cup winners Arsenal (11th) dropped out of the top 10, but remain above north London rivals Tottenham Hotspur (13th).
Leicester City, the last remaining English club in the Champions League before being knocked out of the quarter-finals by Atletico Madrid, were 48th, and Europa League champions Manchester United 16th.
The rankings are produced from results over the past four seasons, but the most recent campaign carries a weight of around two-thirds.
Some of your information will be collected when you use this feature. Find out more
'Liverpool perform like West Brom'
Mauricio Pochettino guided his Spurs side to second in the Premier League this season as the White Hart Lane outfit finished above Arsenal for the first time in 22 years.
But it is the Gunners who occupy a higher spot in the list despite finishing fifth and missing out on a Champions League spot for the first time in manager Arsene Wenger's 21-year reign.
"There is very little difference between Arsenal and Tottenham in terms of rating points on the ranking," said head of analysis at Gracenote Simon Gleave.
"Arsenal's consistency over the past seasons means that they have remained above Tottenham.
"But another season like this one and Spurs will overtake."
Liverpool (19th) also rank lower than Arsenal and 16th-placed Manchester United, despite Jurgen Klopp's side finishing higher in English football's top flight last term.
Gleave says the Reds' ranking reflects their domestic inconsistency over the past four seasons especially against "smaller" clubs.
"Basically, under Klopp, Liverpool performs at the level of a Premier League champion in matches against the big clubs, but at the level of West Bromwich Albion against the rest," he added.
Bournemouth were the most improved Premier League club, rising from 122nd to 97th in the list, while Sunderland dropped from 104th to 185th.
How does it work?
Teams collect or lose points depending on the result of each match, both domestically - including cup competitions - and in Europe, but the amount of points depends on the gulf between the two sides.
For example, a home Chelsea win against Sunderland is worth very few points, in contrast to a Crystal Palace away win at Stamford Bridge.
There is an extra bonus for an entire league if one of its clubs performs well in Europe.
Which country ranks best?
Predictably, Spain's La Liga remains Europe's strongest competition, ahead of Germany's Bundesliga and England's Premier League.
However, while La Liga may boast the Euro Club Index's top two, with Atletico Madrid in fourth, it is the Bundesliga that provides the most teams in the top 100 with 16.
Three of those - Bayern Munich (3rd) and Borussia Dortmund (9th), Hoffenheim (23rd) - are in the top 25, and it was Bundesliga runners-up RB Leipzig who gained more Euro Club Index rating points (702) than any other club this season and moved up 142 places to 58th.
"The league is stronger than the other big leagues in terms of depth of quality in its clubs," explains Gleave.
"The Bundesliga's 16th best club on the ranking, Hamburger SV, is ranked 82nd in Europe for example whereas the 16th best in the Premier League Burnley is 116th."
French champions AS Monaco, meanwhile, improved the most of any team beginning the season in Europe's top-100, climbing to 12th from 40th with a 578 point improvement.
Juventus's Champions League final defeat saw them lose 25 points and slip one place to fifth below Atletico Madrid.
The Euro Club Index
Position Team Points Index movement from June 2016
1 Real Madrid 4,442 +1
2 Barcelona 4,343 -1
3 Bayern Munich 4,053 -
4 Atletico Madrid 3,917 -
5 Juventus 3,910 +1
6 PSG 3,853 -1
7 Chelsea 3,582 +7
8 Manchester City 3,495 -
9 Borussia Dortmund 3,482 -2
10 Napoli 3,464 +2
11 Arsenal 3,426 -2
12 AS Monaco 3,392 +28
13 Tottenham 3,379 +6
14 AS Roma 3,340 -1
15 Sevilla 3,336 -4
16 Manchester United 3,334 +1
17 Benfica 3,274 -7
18 Shaktar Donetsk 3,199 +7
19 Liverpool 3,191 +1
20 Villarreal 3,122 -2
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VVD is on a 5 yr contract and Soton did refuse to let Wanyama go for 12 months,
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nothing new there ask the lad from Stoke' parents about his school fees.......
Considering how often they buy Southampton players you would have thought Liverpool would have good relations, or want to keep good relations, with the club.
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You'd think FSG/Commitee/MikeEdwards would've learnt from the last time they tried to sign Salah, for the sake of £3m then, we're now looking to pay an extra £20m to secure him.
Although some will believe the PR spiel that he chose Chelsea over us.....
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I know it's all paper talk and rumour, but you've even got some sites claiming the VVD deal depends on selling Sakho and some saying Saints have received no offers, really not good for the genuine fans all this on the bus off the bus.
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It wouldn't surprise me with those in charge. Micheal Edwards the sporting director is negotiating transfers, he Was The video analyst iirc fella 6months ago .
We are all just learning from Chelsea
Hmm, so your saying Chelsea has more/longer history than Liverpool 😜
I remember all the anger that was pointed towards Chelsea with the 'unsettling' of Stones at Everton who was apparently never for sale and then went to City, what a great duck & dive dodged bullet that was for us.
However, if no official approach has been made to Saints from Liverpool to discuss anything with the player and they have indeed been in touch with him directly or indirectly by banding about figures for a player still under contract, well, what's good for the Goose as they say.......
However, if no official approach has been made to Saints from Liverpool to discuss anything with the player and they have indeed been in touch with him directly or indirectly by banding about figures for a player still under contract, well, what's good for the Goose as they say.......
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Certainly when it comes to illegal approaches they have 😉
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Reports on twitter saying Lukaku has reached a deal with Chelsea, only needs clubs to agree a fee 😂😂
Paul, would you want money only or cash plus a few Chelsea players?
It wouldn't and hasn't surprised me, the issue for Rom at the time was Jose, but we have a new manager, new formation/s, different squad, tactics etc and Rom now has more PL experience, but can he step up to the demands of a bigger team and it's demands.
A few 😜😂😂😂
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Down to Koeman mate, if there's a particular player he wants all well and good.
I'd trust him.
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I think it depends on Costa staying and how Conte would use him, on what I've seen I think Conte will only go after players that will give him what he wants, don't think he'd risk a signing on a maybe fit.
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A few of your youngsters I think he means
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