And, we're off.....2016/17

[Deleted member 1740]

Mumbo jumbo.

Youve said that they should have done it properly. In my opinion very few approaches are done "properly" these days, with the vast majority of the time the player (or his agent) will be sounded out through intermediaries, international team mates, former team mates, agents and so called agents being asked if he would consider coming to the buying club, what wages he'd expect etc

Once the sounding out has been done, then the official approach will happen. To suggest otherwise is naive.

I'm not privy to what Liverpool have done, so cant say if we are out of order, or have over-stepped the line. Dont think anyone else is either.

Read that statement again, FSG and their cronies have realised they've messed up and Southampton have made sure they hold the ace, the last paragraph suggests this.

There's no Ian Ayre to blame now, Micheal Edwards has caused this and It's obvious he's not up to the job.

 

[BristolMike]

:rofl: you're club has embarrassed themselves, you crack on mate :thup:

It looks like Liverpool ghave been a bit too specific with their tapping up and haven't played the game. Generally an approach is made to an agent to see if the player would consider the move, then an approach is made to the club to have a full discussion with the player. No club wants to make an official approach and be pied by the player.

It it looks like Liverpool went too far and VVD told the club where he wanted to go before the approach was made.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It looks like Liverpool ghave been a bit too specific with their tapping up and haven't played the game. Generally an approach is made to an agent to see if the player would consider the move, then an approach is made to the club to have a full discussion with the player. No club wants to make an official approach and be pied by the player.

It it looks like Liverpool went too far and VVD told the club where he wanted to go before the approach was made.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/virgil-van-dijk-liverpool-a-13153435.amp

 

[Liverbirdie]

:rofl: you're club has embarrassed themselves, you crack on mate :thup:

Argument won by me then.:thup:

In my 40 years of watching footy, your very own EFC have been THE most embarrassing protagonists of transfer dealings so maybe your just jealous that we are trying to challenge you.

 

[BristolMike]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/virgil-van-dijk-liverpool-a-13153435.amp

They are right, it's a shambles and it is embarrassing. All clubs tap up to some degree, but they have obviously pushed it too far.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Argument won by me then.:thup:

In my 40 years of watching footy, your very own EFC have been THE most embarrassing protagonists of transfer dealings so maybe your just jealous that we are trying to challenge you.

Yep you win mate :thup:
Lets talk about us though as it will somehow deflect from, as The Echo put it, this complete and utter shambles :rofl:

 

[Liverbirdie]

Read that statement again, FSG and their cronies have realised they've messed up and Southampton have made sure they hold the ace, the last paragraph suggests this.

There's no Ian Ayre to blame now, whoever has caused this needs shoeing.

What hasnt come out of it is any facts yet, but I find it weird that Soton arent taking it further, neither have the PL, and LFC have just issued an apology. It seems weird that all 3 arent taking anything further, and 2 seem to be happy with just an apology.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Yep you win mate :thup:
Lets talk about us though as it will somehow deflect from, as The Echo put it, this complete and utter shambles :rofl:

Thanks for the concession.

You talk about Lphil dodging questions......

 

[Deleted member 1740]

What hasnt come out of it is any facts yet, but I find it weird that Soton arent taking it further, neither have the PL, and LFC have just issued an apology. It seems weird that all 3 arent taking anything further, and 2 seem to be happy with just an apology.

Southampton have kept their man and they're watching Liverpool grovel. Win win situation imo

 

[BristolMike]

What hasnt come out of it is any facts yet, but I find it weird that Soton arent taking it further, neither have the PL, and LFC have just issued an apology. It seems weird that all 3 arent taking anything further, and 2 seem to be happy with just an apology.

No facts? Your club have had to issue an embarrassing statement apologising for their actions. Isn't that an admission of guilt?

Saints reported Liverpool to prove a point that they aren't pushovers and won't be treated like that. The apology has shown that and embarrassed Liverpool at the same time, why would they need to take anything further if they have already got what they wanted. Liverpool look stupid, the player stays for now and if he does go it's not going to be to you lot.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Thanks for the concession.

You talk about Lphil dodging questions......

I've tried mate, but you still haven't answered what the relevance of your questions are

Were did you get 80/20 figure?

 

[Papas1982]

What hasnt come out of it is any facts yet, but I find it weird that Soton arent taking it further, neither have the PL, and LFC have just issued an apology. It seems weird that all 3 arent taking anything further, and 2 seem to be happy with just an apology.

I suspect our board would be happy with the rumoured £60m so don't wanna burn the chance of a transfer at some point.

 

[BristolMike]

I suspect our board would be happy with the rumoured £60m so don't wanna burn the chance of a transfer at some point.

i think they would prob rather sell to anyone other than them ATM. It's a lot harder to get top money for a player when his mind is made up on where he wants to go before a bid comes in

 

[Liverbirdie]

Southampton have kept their man and they're watching Liverpool grovel. Win win situation imo

Kept him for now, you fancy a £20 bet he wont be a Soton player come September?

 

[BristolMike]

Kept him for now, you fancy a £20 bet he wont be a Soton player come September?

Id take the bet that he isn't in a liverpool top. I imagine he will end up in a city shirt

 

[Liverbirdie]

No facts? Your club have had to issue an embarrassing statement apologising for their actions. Isn't that an admission of guilt?

Saints reported Liverpool to prove a point that they aren't pushovers and won't be treated like that. The apology has shown that and embarrassed Liverpool at the same time, why would they need to take anything further if they have already got what they wanted. Liverpool look stupid, the player stays for now and if he does go it's not going to be to you lot.

Yep, but the facts I am on about is what specifically they did illegally, how did we overstep the mark, how did we approach the player etc

Not if we did it, but what, how or where.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I've tried mate, but you still haven't answered what the relevance of your questions are

Were did you get 80/20 figure?

The 80/20 figure is purely my own estimation, be it 51/49 - do you think that the majority of approaches by buying clubs are all above board, and straight to the selling club first. Simples.....

 

[Liverbirdie]

Id take the bet that he isn't in a liverpool top. I imagine he will end up in a city shirt

That wasnt the bet of offer.:thup:

I'd also bet he wouldnt be in a Liverpool top.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Kept him for now, you fancy a £20 bet he wont be a Soton player come September?

It doesn't matter, I reckon Southampton will be happier that they've stopped him from joining us. They as a club don't want players dictating were they want to go etc.

 

[BristolMike]

Yep, but the facts I am on about is what specifically they did illegally, how did we overstep the mark, how did we approach the player etc

Not if we did it, but what, how or where.

every club knows the players agent will be approached to ask if the player would consider the move before the club is approached. If saints have reported to the PL it would need to be more than that. The actual complaint was for contact with the player, which would suggest things went further than the agent being contacted. This could be something as simple as contact between the manager and the player, or as complex as a full meeting to thrash out full terms of the contract with incentives in place to make it known there is only one place he wants to go