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Ref said he saw it and dealt with it.


Maybe it wasn't a deliberate stamp after all.
I've just seen it again, it looks deliberate to me ............... however it didn't look to have any force to it, almost as if he was suddenly trying to pull out of the stamp.
The thing for me is that if it was a proper stamp Hazard would still be rolling about and squealing like a pig. In fact there was remarkably little in the way of a reaction from Hazard.
I think Rojo pulled out at the last second and barely touched Hazard.
Just saying .................. and I'm trying sooooooooo hard not to be too biased!!
 
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Maybe it wasn't a deliberate stamp after all.
I've just seen it again, it looks deliberate to me ............... however it didn't look to have any force to it, almost as if he was suddenly trying to pull out of the stamp.
The thing for me is that if it was a proper stamp Hazard would still be rolling about and squealing like a pig. In fact there was remarkably little in the way of a reaction from Hazard.
I think Rojo pulled out at the last second and barely touched Hazaed.
Just saying .................. and I'm trying sooooooooo hard not to be too biased!!
It's one of them things that seeing in slow motion or from 10 diferent angles you can pretty much make your mind up, Ref gets one look, says he's seen and dealt with it, end of discussion, bit like Herrera's 2nd yellow, Ref's decision, move on, some you win, some you lose.

Rojo should have a 3 match ban and Herrera available for the next game.
 

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Stuck a tenner on Sevilla halftime/fulltime 3/1 for added interest.

They are a very good side and I think 2-1 flattered Leicester a bit first leg.
 

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Havin an early night tonight. Off to Monaco tomorrow morning from Manchester airport, flying at 8.30. So do your best to keep the noise down on here please,
 

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If Herrera leaned in to him, there's the issue, regardless of his feet Herrera obstructed Hazard.

It's all about opinions, to me Herrera tried to be clever and failed.
Sorry can't agree obstruction has gone out of the game just watch a fullback letting the ball go out for a goal kick.
Hazard ran into Herrera to be obstruction you have to move to block his path but he just stood still.
He dipped his shoulder to protect himself.
just my opinion
 

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As long as we squeeze the pips I don't mind where he goes. We can't expect to keep him with the record he has and the position we are in. He owes us nothing. 2 years left on his deal should mean a decent payday for Everton
I agree 100% LT. But the problem is, we as a club are in a weak position to 'parley' now that the world and his wife know that Lukaku is not gonna sign another contract with us. We may struggle to squeeze a little bit of juice let alone the pips.

I would prefer him to go abroad, but I just get the feeling he's Costas replacement for next season.
 
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Sorry can't agree obstruction has gone out of the game just watch a fullback letting the ball go out for a goal kick.
Hazard ran into Herrera to be obstruction you have to move to block his path but he just stood still.
He dipped his shoulder to protect himself.
just my opinion
As a former Referee my biggest gripe was knowing that a full back had no intention of playing the ball and protecting it to let it go out for a goal kick, however, under the laws of the game they are allowed to do that so long as the ball is within playing distance, Herrera didn't have control of the ball and is therefore obstructing Hazard who did have the ball and that's the difference.
 
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I agree 100% LT. But the problem is, we as a club are in a weak position to 'parley' now that the world and his wife know that Lukaku is not gonna sign another contract with us. We may struggle to squeeze a little bit of juice let alone the pips.

I would prefer him to go abroad, but I just get the feeling he's Costas replacement for next season.
Twitter is great fun tonight, Chelsea fans seem 50/50 split on having him back, Utd and Arsenal fans seem the most keen to have him, :rofl:
 

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As a former Referee my biggest gripe was knowing that a full back had no intention of playing the ball and protecting it to let it go out for a goal kick, however, under the laws of the game they are allowed to do that so long as the ball is within playing distance, Herrera didn't have control of the ball and is therefore obstructing Hazard who did have the ball and that's the difference.
So if you stand still and someone runs straight into you it's a foul.
 
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Sorry but I just don't agree.
Thats football opinions , but only the refs count!,,

Agree it's only one opinion that counts, although we know they make mistakes ;)

You said yourself Herrera dipped his shoulder to protect himself, how is the Ref meant to know if his intention is to protect or block, all he will see is Herrera make a move towards Hazard as Hazard is moving towards the penalty area.
 

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I agree 100% LT. But the problem is, we as a club are in a weak position to 'parley' now that the world and his wife know that Lukaku is not gonna sign another contract with us. We may struggle to squeeze a little bit of juice let alone the pips.

I would prefer him to go abroad, but I just get the feeling he's Costas replacement for next season.

I wonder if those 50% that don't want him will change their mind sharpish once he starts banging in the goals. I think he's a powerful forward, almost old school, and gets goals. Are Everton really in that bad a position that can't keep negotiations going and a deal be found
 
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How are teams like Everton ever going to get back to former glory if every time they get a decent squad the "stars "want to leave.
Its sad really that only money talks and that's what CL is about Money.
You could ask the same question to a few clubs, Lukaku has always stated his desire to play CL, it must be even more confusing for you's when your "stars" do it.

Money talks though.
 
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I wonder if those 50% that don't want him will change their mind sharpish once he starts banging in the goals. I think he's a powerful forward, almost old school, and gets goals. Are Everton really in that bad a position that can't keep negotiations going and a deal be found
Could be a bluff, his agent said it was a 99.999% done deal only 2 weeks ago.
 
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