And, we're off.....2016/17

[Hobbit]

Last 4 has the two mega rich clubs,. It would have been 1234 in terms of finances had United not drawn Chelsea.

Maybe you're right, Arsenal should pay Sanchez and Ozil £300K a week each to keep those players and then add a few more like them?

Or not cave in to their obscene money demands? Why is £180K a week not good enough? Who can't live on that ?

No sorry I don't think we should spend money recklessly.

In my opinion, every club in the Prem is already paying obscene wages. Who can't live on £8k a week, never mind £180k?

 

[user2010]

Rojo should be looking at a 5 game ban for that deliberate stamp shouldn`t he?

 

[user2010]

This is shocking

https://twitter.com/sporf/status/841028790511894529

Will never ever understand how people can react with their fists like that. Lack of Brain cells the closest answer

`Twas a great punch though.:thup:

 

[ColchesterFC]

Last 4 has the two mega rich clubs,. It would have been 1234 in terms of finances had United not drawn Chelsea.

Maybe you're right, Arsenal should pay Sanchez and Ozil £300K a week each to keep those players and then add a few more like them?

Or not cave in to their obscene money demands? Why is £180K a week not good enough? Who can't live on that ?

No sorry I don't think we should spend money recklessly.

This season your wage bill is just over £200 million. That is about £25 million less than man city and £20 million less than than man utd and Chelsea. So basically the difference is two players earning £200k per week. And surely it would only be spending recklessly if you didn't have the money to spend and it was jeopardising the future of the club. Once again, you've got over £200 million in the bank. Stop using money as an excuse. It's like you've been brainwashed not to accept any criticism of Arsenal or Arsene and to believe that top 4 in the PL and last 16 in the CL is a fantastic achievement. Don't get me wrong, it's a good achievement but it's as though a lot of Arsenal fans have lost all their ambition.

 

[clubchamp98]

This is my point, Previous leaders Inc Joe Anderson have managed the decline of that area by standing still and waiting for a multi million pound company to decide on what they want to do to suit themselves. This wasn't/isnt acceptable behaviour from council leaders in my view.

The council had allowed themselves to be held to ransom by LFC. Again for the people of that area this wasn't right.

As for Stanley park v Wally hall park debate, correct me if I'm wrong, the plans for the new stadium in Stanley park would've lost a 1/3rd of the park as opposed to the whole of Wally hall park going. Also there was a massive rejection from local residents and users of Wally hall park too.

Wasn't there a plan for Switch Island at the end of the motorways what happened there I thought it was a good site.
Out of the City was mooted is that true?

 

[Kellfire]

Now that the dust has settled, here are my views on last night...

Neither were yellow cards on Herrera. The first was maybe just a foul even though Hazard plays for it, but the second is a dive.

But when Herrera walked Jose bottled it by taking off Mkhitaryan and bringing on Fellaini. The correct call at that stage, if anyone had to come on, was Mata. Some who can slow it down, keep possession and not panic.

Poor management last night from Mourinho, from the overly defensive starting line-up (6-3-1) to that sub and then not to change it much earlier in the game.

Better team won.

ps. Kante scuffed the shot for the goal.

 

[Junior]

Now that the dust has settled, here are my views on last night...

Neither were yellow cards on Herrera. The first was maybe just a foul even though Hazard plays for it, but the second is a dive.

But when Herrera walked Jose bottled it by taking off Mkhitaryan and bringing on Fellaini. The correct call at that stage, if anyone had to come on, was Mata. Some who can slow it down, keep possession and not panic.

Poor management last night from Mourinho, from the overly defensive starting line-up (6-3-1) to that sub and then not to change it much earlier in the game.

Better team won.

ps. Kante scuffed the shot for the goal.

Agree re Mata. IMO It was huge mistake not playing Mata from the start. By far and away our best 'footballer' this season. Especially with Rashford up front, he is the one player who could find the pass. Pogba should have been on the bench.

Herrera should not have gone when he did, the first was definitely not a yellow. The 2nd was clumsy and Hazard was always going down easy. Without my red tinted glasses on, it was a matter of time before he was sent off for persistent fouling......as all the Chelsea players kept pointing out to the referee.

Rojo had a great game, but spoilt it with the stamp. if that's looked at he's going ot get banned.

 

[The Evertonian]

This is my point, Previous leaders Inc Joe Anderson have managed the decline of that area by standing still and waiting for a multi million pound company to decide on what they want to do to suit themselves. This wasn't/isnt acceptable behaviour from council leaders in my view.

The council had allowed themselves to be held to ransom by LFC. Again for the people of that area this wasn't right.

As for Stanley park v Wally hall park debate, correct me if I'm wrong, the plans for the new stadium in Stanley park would've lost a 1/3rd of the park as opposed to the whole of Wally hall park going. Also there was a massive rejection from local residents and users of Wally hall park too.

I agree the council were held to ransom by LFC, shame on them and on LFC.
But that was my point; the council have bent over backwards to please LFC.

I think the least the council can can do is look for infrastructure solutions for EFC to be able to build a modern football stadium in the heart of the city.

At the end of the day a football club is about its local community, that is where all clubs have risen from.

As for Walton Hall Park, personally I'm glad it got knocked back, but it weren't just a stadium taking up the park. There were also going to be housing and commercial ventures on the site.

 

[Blue in Munich]

On a more sombre note, it is the 40th anniversary this month of the tragic death of one of the club’s immortals from that FA Cup-winning night, Peter Houseman.

The Blues’ former winger and his wife Sally were killed by a reckless driver in a road accident on 20 March 1977. Their sons are guests of the club at Monday’s game.

Fair play to the United supporters in The Shed at half time who treated them very respectfully. :thup:

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I agree the council were held to ransom by LFC, shame on them and on LFC.
But that was my point; the council have bent over backwards to please LFC.

I think the least the council can can do is look for infrastructure solutions for EFC to be able tqo build a modern football stadium in the heart of the city.

They are doing which I have no problem with, indirectly funding a stadium is what I'd be against for both clubs.

At the end of the day a football club is about its local community, that is where all clubs have risen from.

Those days are long gone, they only care about the P&L sheets, although I know Everton do a hell of a lot more community work than Liverpool do.

As for Walton Hall Park, personally I'm glad it got knocked back, but it weren't just a stadium taking up the park. There were also going to be housing and commercial ventures on the site.

I thought it was more than just a section of the park that would've been lost.

 

[clubchamp98]

Agree re Mata. IMO It was huge mistake not playing Mata from the start. By far and away our best 'footballer' this season. Especially with Rashford up front, he is the one player who could find the pass. Pogba should have been on the bench.

Herrera should not have gone when he did, the first was definitely not a yellow. The 2nd was clumsy and Hazard was always going down easy. Without my red tinted glasses on, it was a matter of time before he was sent off for persistent fouling......as all the Chelsea players kept pointing out to the referee.

Rojo had a great game, but spoilt it with the stamp. if that's looked at he's going ot get banned.

Would be interesting to hear a refs view of Herreras first yellow ,he had both feet on the floor arms by his side he did lean in with his shoulder to protect himself imo ,but what is he supposed to do if Hazard runs right into him.
Lucas got booked for exactly the same thing last week.

any Refs on here shine a light on that.

 

[The Evertonian]

Wasn't there a plan for Switch Island at the end of the motorways what happened there I thought it was a good site.
Out of the City was mooted is that true?

Why would we want to move out of the City?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Would be interesting to hear a refs view of Herreras first yellow ,he had both feet on the floor arms by his side he did lean in with his shoulder to protect himself imo ,but what is he supposed to do if Hazard runs right into him.
Lucas got booked for exactly the same thing last week.

any Refs on here shine a light on that.

It's interpretation though, I thought the first one was a stonewall booking, Hazard had the ball and Herrera stepped across him and made no attempt to avoid Hazard or get out the way and then tries to blame Hazard, the second booking was a joke though imo.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Why would we want to move out of the City?

Hasn't that been part of the issue, Kirby looked good at one stage, but was 1/2 mile outside the City limit, we've had 3 or 4 false dawns so hopefully this one will go through!

 

[clubchamp98]

Why would we want to move out of the City?

Never said you would .
Out of the city is why it never happened is what I meant.

 

[clubchamp98]

It's interpretation though, I thought the first one was a stonewall booking, Hazard had the ball and Herrera stepped across him and made no attempt to avoid Hazard or get out the way and then tries to blame Hazard, the second booking was a joke though imo.

He didn't step across him though he had both feet planted and just stood still.
He leaned in with his shoulder .
why does he have to get out of the way.
Hazard should go round him not through him.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

He didn't step across him though he had both feet planted and just stood still.
He leaned in with his shoulder .
why does he have to get out of the way.
Hazard should go round him not through him.

If Herrera leaned in to him, there's the issue, regardless of his feet Herrera obstructed Hazard.

It's all about opinions, to me Herrera tried to be clever and failed.

 

[Fish]

Romelu Lukaku tells Everton he will not sign a new contract

 

[Kellfire]

Rojo got away with that stamp.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Romelu Lukaku tells Everton he will not sign a new contract

Fair enough, he's always stated his ambition to play CL and we're not at that level yet, hope we get a nice pay day off him, still has 2 years on current contract so will wait and see what offers come in and who from.