And, we're off.....2016/17

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Just seen the Suarez dive .................... astonishing!
He'd already been booked for diving so I'd have thought he'd have perfected his technique a bit.
He's a lucky lad and PSG will not want to see the replay!
Nor will Suarez!
Suarez won't mind one bit,let's be honest he's done much worse.
Fantastic footballer but he's scum.
 

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Most unusual for a board member of any PL club to make a public statement... With the unprecedented level of unfounded speculation surrounding the club, at present, the board perhaps felt the need to attempt to steady the ship...

I blame the crappy pundits on TV. Most of them know diddly squat about management, never managed in their lives or if they did it was very brief (and badly) yet throw comments around that get picked up and spread around like wild fire. Keown, Wright, Parlour all now getting in on the act as well which I think is pretty disgusting. Its like no one wants to be alone with their individual thoughts on the matter for fear of ridicule.

Redknapp senior, Gullit, Hoddle and some of the past/present football managers will usually be a lot less critical and often say the fantastic job Wenger is doing. However should I really sit up and take notice of what Ferdinand, Owen, Savage, Jenas et al say? Not really. Most of them change their mind every 2 minutes as well which pretty much sums them up. They cant think for themselves they just pick up on what the first person said and they repeat it parrot fashion, "like Rio just said it was embarrassing, blah blah blah."

Not saying everything is rosy at Arsenal but the things these people come out with, honestly, its embarrassing.
 

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To be fair Wright was one of the earlier ones to question Wenger this season. However both Wrighty and Keown asked questions last season and I think Keown before that.

Even as a Spurs fan, I really like Keown for his analysis I think he's one of the best ones. He's very intellectual, unbiased in his opinion and reads the game well.
 

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past/present football managers will usually be a lot less critical and often say the fantastic job Wenger IS DOING..

I think just like on here you hear or read totally the opposite of what is being said at times or simply choose to ignore what players have actually said in full.

I've listened to loads of ex Arsenal players and many other players & managers that you list and all of them start by saying what great achievements he's done over the years.

But their is now, and has been for a while, a more deep seated issue at Arsenal and unfortunately it lies at the feet of Wenger and nobody else because it ain't working any more!

So like the capitals in your quote as I can't bold them on my iPhone, he is not doing a fantastic job now as in your 'is doing' quote otherwise the storms wouldn't be brewing as they have for at least 12 months and are coming to a point where he's almost being driven out of the Emirates !

Now, as an opposing supporter I'll clearly state that I think some of what he's done in the past and over the years was quite brilliant, but then when a club supports a manager like Arsenal did and puts long term trust in them, it can take a whole lot of pressure off not trying to do everything in super quick time.

But, the same on the pitch issues that every football fan can see whether they be Arsenal fans or any other team have been evident for at least 12 months if not longer (since Viera going) and still those issues are evident now, if not worse.

Personally I think it's a shame, but there's always a time when you just have to walk away before what we are seeing now undoes all those memorable things he's done because fans that loved him now hate him as he drags their beloved club down.

It's almost like he's scared to leave, after so long can he manage another club or does he retire, but I don't think he can retire, he lives for the game and is it possible that being at Arsenal for so long has created this untenable situation?

I think he's going to try to finish 4th and then leave but I'm afraid that if he doesn't get 4th he won't want to leave that way and would have to be let go, with no new contract being offered.
 
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Is this round 16 in Europa home & away ties? Rostov holding United 1-1 currently and apparently the pitch (field) is astrocious!
 

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Because why should people avoid paying the required price for something ? Not paying for the football and using illegal streams is basically theft.

Just take comfort in the fact that you're going to heaven for being a saint Phil 👍🏻

Personally I don't bother with the streams because it's too much hassle.
I like to turn on my sky box & know that I'll have none interrupted viewing.
 
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My question to Phil was a "loaded question "

My sentiments are the same as Tiger man.

So because a company is doing well it's ok to steal from them ?

There is no justification for it - if someone wants to watch the subscription sport then pay for it. Regardless of how well the sport is doing not paying for it when it's required is theft.
 

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So because a company is doing well it's ok to steal from them ?

There is no justification for it - if someone wants to watch the subscription sport then pay for it. Regardless of how well the sport is doing not paying for it when it's required is theft.

I was a Sky customer for over 20 years, and for the majority of that time the subscription was fair and in line with other leisure costs/bills. However sadly that is no longer the case and the cost has become extremely disproportionate.

The majority of the money is paid straight to players, and hardly anything is put back into developing the game or grass roots.

Furthermore Sky hardly produce any of their own content, merely relying on others.

Streaming gives me the opportunity to watch the live football matches that I want to watch at 3 pm on a Saturday. Sky don't provide that.

In addition Sky tried to shaft me when my deal came to an end by offering me one that was totally uncompetitive. It was only after I bought an android and left, did they offer me a deal that was cheaper than anything I had paid before. By that time it was too late. If Sky had treated me better as a loyal customer I would have stayed. However if that's how they treat customers then what do they expect ?
As it turns out it's worked out better due to the choice I now have.

Do I have any remorse? None whatsoever, and each time I stream an event from Sky I have a smile on my face. Sky tried to turn me over, now it's my turn to return the favour....
 
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