And, we're off.....2016/17

[pokerjoke]

Maybe because we're all away playing golf and internet access is poor in Deal where we're all staying 🤔 But hey, let's start s conspiracy 😂😂

Not now though is it.
And do you mean poor or not available at all?

 

[Fish]

Not now though is it.
And do you mean poor or not available at all?

In Royal St George's now with wireless but very poor everywhere else but we all had better things to do, like bitching about everyone who wasn't here 😜😂😂

 

[pokerjoke]

Lol like were missing something, bloody freezing and peeing down that's not fun,enjoy though.

 

[user2010]

Carragher had it right last night, shameful. If that`s the display that team puts on after having 16 days off without a game, then they should all hang their heads in shame. I`d fine the lot of `em 2 weeks wages.

 

[guest100718]

He's already had three transfer windows but Liverpool appear not to have improved.
Where does the problem lie?
With the board or with the manager?

you mean great transfer moves such as missing out on ali the boyhood Liverpool fan because the owners are too tight.

 

[Tashyboy]

seriously you can't blame Milner for that crap how well would sterling play out of position.
He has played out of position all season , Lukas is not a centre back he has no pace.
Leaving space behind for Vardy to exploit .
Thats the managers fault .
He thinks his way of playing is the right way but lacks two main ingredients
He hasn't got the players.
Tactics were all wrong he has no plan B.
You can clearly see some players are not happy with the system .
We hear it every year " we need to rebuild for next season"
Inmho he has made the same mistakes as the end of last season and we are worse now than 12 months ago.

You have answered my point yourself. Sterling was played out, no out played from his natural position last season and had a shocker. He has played his natural game this year and is on fire. my point about Milner is, Where is his best position? And where ever it is, he is not good enough to be a top four team player in whatever position he plays. As a squad player yes, but a regular at centre half, left of right back, wing or midfield, or centre forward. He is ok but not a sterling, Silva, Aguero. Or whoever is the equivalent at Liverpool.
Noticed I never picked any defenders., coz we are crap in defence, and yes he would of done a job at City, but no better than what we already have. We have put square pegs in round holes all year with our defence. You have seen how that has turned out.
My initial point about Milner was nothing to do with last nights performance from the team, it was to do with the fact that he was raved about earlier in the season in a sense that Liverpool got a better deal in the Milner and Sterling " swop". I said otherwise and still stand by that.

 

[Rlburnside]

Don't think Liverpool are as bad as some on hear are saying, look at the performance they put in against Spurs they were brilliant that night, as they were earlier in the season.

But they still need a few more players and not solved the problem with the goalkeeper, think 6th will be best they can achieve this season.

Daft to criticise Klopp to much he will need more time.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Very enjoyable final, both teams should get credit for an open game. Wouldn't have begrudged Southampton a victory if it had panned out that way.

Would hope neutrals enjoyed it too, a bit of everything for everyone, even some controversy for the bindippers to take back to their holes :thup:

Im really looking forward to our next meet when you continue with the anti-scouse comments.

No handshake next time lad, your becoming a boring embarrassment.

 

[clubchamp98]

Don't think Liverpool are as bad as some on hear are saying, look at the performance they put in against Spurs they were brilliant that night, as they were earlier in the season.

But they still need a few more players and not solved the problem with the goalkeeper, think 6th will be best they can achieve this season.

Daft to criticise Klopp to much he will need more time.

Klopp has no plan B which will stop us losing to teams in the bottom three.
If he doesn't stop us losing games we will finish lower in the league.
That is not going to entice top players for next season.
So in a years time we will be saying the same things like now about last season when he made the same mistakes.
He needs to sort the defence out he has had 18 months to get a keeper and some defenders.
for the money Liverpool have spent over the last couple of years the squad is poor.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Klopp has no plan B which will stop us losing to teams in the bottom three.
If he doesn't stop us losing games we will finish lower in the league.
That is not going to entice top players for next season.
So in a years time we will be saying the same things like now about last season when he made the same mistakes.
He needs to sort the defence out he has had 18 months to get a keeper and some defenders.
for the money Liverpool have spent over the last couple of years the squad is poor.

The problem as others have said is you need to attract the very top players to compete with the likes of Chelsea and City and the only lure Liverpool would have is if they offered CL football next season. More performances like last night will stop that. It really didn't seem like Klopp knew what to do to change it last night and that's worrying

 

[clubchamp98]

You have answered my point yourself. Sterling was played out, no out played from his natural position last season and had a shocker. He has played his natural game this year and is on fire. my point about Milner is, Where is his best position? And where ever it is, he is not good enough to be a top four team player in whatever position he plays. As a squad player yes, but a regular at centre half, left of right back, wing or midfield, or centre forward. He is ok but not a sterling, Silva, Aguero. Or whoever is the equivalent at Liverpool.
Noticed I never picked any defenders., coz we are crap in defence, and yes he would of done a job at City, but no better than what we already have. We have put square pegs in round holes all year with our defence. You have seen how that has turned out.
My initial point about Milner was nothing to do with last nights performance from the team, it was to do with the fact that he was raved about earlier in the season in a sense that Liverpool got a better deal in the Milner and Sterling " swop". I said otherwise and still stand by that.

I would have Milner before Ottamendi and he IS supposed to be a defender.
Bit unfair to to compare him to that trio Milner is a squad player but Klopp has done nothing to buy a fullback.
I liked Sterling but he didn't want to play for us that's a pity.
Milner or Sterling no brainier but he wanted to go.
I think in another year Sterling will be a very good player.
Anyone can look good when the team are playing well , but then look very average when the team are struggling.
We have major problems all over the park at least yours are just in defence

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Klopp has no plan B which will stop us losing to teams in the bottom three.
If he doesn't stop us losing games we will finish lower in the league.
That is not going to entice top players for next season.
So in a years time we will be saying the same things like now about last season when he made the same mistakes.
He needs to sort the defence out he has had 18 months to get a keeper and some defenders.
for the money Liverpool have spent over the last couple of years the squad is poor.

It's ok critisising the defence and Klopp, but we thought Sahko was the new round peg for the round hole, only for him to create issues off the pitch which Klopp had to address and assert his authority. Sadly that means the search is on again.
Dont forget the lieks of Flanagan will be back next season after his loan spell to strengthen and fully recover .

 

[Imurg]

Don't think Liverpool are as bad as some on hear are saying, look at the performance they put in against Spurs they were brilliant that night, as they were earlier in the season.
.

Problem with Liverpool is consistency.
Play a blinder against Spurs but get taken to the cleaners by Leicester - as Klopp said, they let Leicester be the Leicester of last season..
After two weeks off they should have been sharp and ready to go...

 

[Papas1982]

I don't buy into this idea that Liverpool need all these 70m players. Start of the season and with their 20/30m players they were competing. The length of the season and busy festive period has tested them. Klopp clearly showed strain and frustration at the frequency of the games.

I feel they simply need more players. Two players for 70m would be less beneficial than 7x 20m players. They clearly like klopps ideas, but with just a little more variation and competition for places their seasons could improve.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

With all this comment on Klopp, I do wonder how many who castigate him actually think that giving ALL existing squad players a chance to prove themselves before being shipped out is actually a good thing. I for one like the idea of all the squad being given the opportunity to prove their worth, youngsters especially.

 

[Swingalot]

Brighton choking again in the Championship. Love it.

 

[Slime]

Brighton choking again in the Championship. Love it.

If you're going to slag Brighton off, DO IT IN THE CORRECT THREAD!

 

[Swingalot]

If you're going to slag Brighton off, DO IT IN THE CORRECT THREAD!

Not a problem, I'll do it in all the threads if you like?

 

[sawtooth]

If the truth is told there is very little difference between Rodgers and Klopp. The problem is finance and Liverpool are doing pretty much as well as they can expect without spending a bomb more.

The cost of replacing Milner, Matip, Mignolet, Lucas and probably Sturridge as well will be astronomical unless Klopp can uncover some bargains from somewhere.

Not sure who bought who but Rodgers had Sturridge ( when he seemed to stay fit), Suarez, Sterling , and others. Good players for not a lot of money. Klopp needs to do something similar. But you see how fast a good side can evaporate as Suarez and Sterling soon left and Gerrard retired, etc

It's not an easy job to be fair.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If the truth is told there is very little difference between Rodgers and Klopp. The problem is finance and Liverpool are doing pretty much as well as they can expect without spending a bomb more.

The cost of replacing Milner, Matip, Mignolet, Lucas and probably Sturridge as well will be astronomical unless Klopp can uncover some bargains from somewhere.

Not sure who bought who but Rodgers had Sturridge ( when he seemed to stay fit), Suarez, Sterling , and others. Good players for not a lot of money. Klopp needs to do something similar. But you see how fast a good side can evaporate as Suarez and Sterling soon left and Gerrard retired, etc

It's not an easy job to be fair.

I see you have reappeared- thought you might be in hiding after we didn't see you after the mauling Arsenal got

It's quite clear from your statement that you don't know the truth - especially when it comes to comparing Klopp and Rodgers. They are vastly different in every way possible

Why would we need to replace Matip ? He was only bought in the summer and has shown to be a very good player , certainly doesn't need to be astronomical to strengthen some areas. Certainly been a lot of complete nonsense posted.

As for Leicester game - we were shocking apart from the goal nothing much positive to find , we lost we move on. As for Leicester - where was that Vardy running , Mahrez trickery and dribbles , effort and determination when Raneri was in charge - those players should be ashamed of themselves