And, we're off.....2016/17

[HankMarvin]

People saying "why couldn't Leicester play like this for Ranieri?"

They're only beating Liverpool. Hardly an impossible job

Well said, Liverpool are rather crap if the truth be told.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Hard for Liverpool to put in a performance like that and still maintain they have a title chance. Very poor and too may weak links still. Not sure the Klopp express is re-railed and he'll be give (or should be) the summer to continue the rebuild but he'll need a strong start next season

 

[guest100718]

Well said, Liverpool are rather crape if the truth be told.

last week after beating SPurs they were title contenders.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

last week after beating SPurs they were title contenders.

Aren't they always title contenders. However like Arsenal, and others though will they ever be anything more?

 

[sawtooth]

Hard for Liverpool to put in a performance like that and still maintain they have a title chance. Very poor and too may weak links still. Not sure the Klopp express is re-railed and he'll be give (or should be) the summer to continue the rebuild but he'll need a strong start next season

Liverpool have been poor for ages, only recent win was their home banker against a weakened Spurs side.

 

[The Evertonian]

A dark day for all Evertonians with the sad passing of 'The Golden Vision'...

I think he'd of enjoyed MNF...

RIP Alex Young

 

[richy]

Strangely quiet on here 🤔

 

[user2010]

As I said a fair few posts ago, it`s a good job Liverpool have got more than 40 points already this season, because most of their performances this year have been relegation material, and I`m an armchair Liverpool fan.

 

[pokerjoke]

Strangely quiet on here 🤔

Unbelievable isn't it.
If Arsenal were playing and losing there would be posts galore.
I can only put it down to SHOCK some thought Klopp was the answer but it looks like he is not.

I can actually see him walking.
Liverpool need to change and buy big if Klopp doesn't get the money to do this he could walk.

It was mentioned last night but imo any manager that thinks Lucas is a centre back is deluded and it defies belief that someone who gets paid a serious amount of money thinks he is.

 

[Tashyboy]

cant really see what Millner did wrong tonight.
theres just nothing in front of him.
Sterling is like Harry Kewell you may get 5 good games a season.

well lucky us, coz he has had next seasons five good games and the year afters as well whilst playing for us this season. Fingers crossed it continues.

Joking aside, city started off like poo off a shovel. They hit a bad patch like Liverpool are in now. Like Leicester are in now ( one swallow). But the players continued to play for Pep. Why like Leicester did they stop playing for Claudio. Are Liverpool playing for Klopp. city did well getting rid of some trouble players. Do Liverpool and Leicester still have them.

 

[clubchamp98]

well lucky us, coz he has had next seasons five good games and the year afters as well whilst playing for us this season. Fingers crossed it continues.

Joking aside, city started off like poo off a shovel. They hit a bad patch like Liverpool are in now. Like Leicester are in now ( one swallow). But the players continued to play for Pep. Why like Leicester did they stop playing for Claudio. Are Liverpool playing for Klopp. city did well getting rid of some trouble players. Do Liverpool and Leicester still have them.

seriously you can't blame Milner for that crap how well would sterling play out of position.
He has played out of position all season , Lukas is not a centre back he has no pace.
Leaving space behind for Vardy to exploit .
Thats the managers fault .
He thinks his way of playing is the right way but lacks two main ingredients
He hasn't got the players.
Tactics were all wrong he has no plan B.
You can clearly see some players are not happy with the system .
We hear it every year " we need to rebuild for next season"
Inmho he has made the same mistakes as the end of last season and we are worse now than 12 months ago.

 

[pokerjoke]

seriously you can't blame Milner for that crap how well would sterling play out of position.
He has played out of position all season , Lukas is not a centre back he has no pace.
Leaving space behind for Vardy to exploit .
Thats the managers fault .
He thinks his way of playing is the right way but lacks two main ingredients
He hasn't got the players.
Tactics were all wrong he has no plan B.
You can clearly see some players are not happy with the system .
We hear it every year " we need to rebuild for next season"
Inmho he has made the same mistakes as the end of last season and we are worse now than 12 months ago.

Mate spot on and honesty at last from a Liverpool fan someone it seams who knows his football.

Klopps style of play of the high pressing game can work but not every game and that is where his problems lie he has actually knackered his players out and they no longer can press,now he needs to adapt he cant.
He certainly has not got the players or a big enough squad and as I predicted weeks back they will be 6th at best.

Liverpool have has some really impressive performances earlier in the season when they were fresh and fit however they need additional players of quality.

Ive heard people question Utd and there bench costing 200 million well that's because its required to compete especially on so many levels.

The way the P/L going it could be a long time before Liverpool compete for the title I hope not though because the banter wouldn't be the same and the delusional comments would not continue,now wheres the fun in that.

 

[beachbunker]

Every Leicester loss greatly amuses me as I can abuse the fans in the office. Trust Liverpool to ruin that for me.

 

[Slime]

I can actually see him walking.
Liverpool need to change and buy big if Klopp doesn't get the money to do this he could walk.

It was mentioned last night but imo any manager that thinks Lucas is a centre back is deluded and it defies belief that someone who gets paid a serious amount of money thinks he is.

He's already had three transfer windows but Liverpool appear not to have improved.
Where does the problem lie?
With the board or with the manager?

 

[pokerjoke]

He's already had three transfer windows but Liverpool appear not to have improved.
Where does the problem lie?
With the board or with the manager?

As I understand it from reading reports Klopp has got money to spend how much I don't know or really care[perhaps the fans do know].
However its the quality of player they are going to get that would be a worry because the top players now go for 70-100 million and only a few clubs can buy these,the 40-70 million players will want C/L football or a massive wage so I suppose Liverpool will be looking at the 20-40 million bracket.
The question then would be are they good enough players to get Liverpool challenging for the title.

With the amount of improvements needed and additional squad players this could top £300 million have they got that type of money?

That's why imo it will take years for them to challenge as it seems a long term process because the other 5 teams up there have this type of budget.

 

[sawtooth]

As I understand it from reading reports Klopp has got money to spend how much I don't know or really care[perhaps the fans do know].
However its the quality of player they are going to get that would be a worry because the top players now go for 70-100 million and only a few clubs can buy these,the 40-70 million players will want C/L football or a massive wage so I suppose Liverpool will be looking at the 20-40 million bracket.
The question then would be are they good enough players to get Liverpool challenging for the title.

With the amount of improvements needed and additional squad players this could top £300 million have they got that type of money?

That's why imo it will take years for them to challenge as it seems a long term process because the other 5 team<script id="gpt-impl-0.9431714390633439" src="https://securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/gpt/pubads_impl_110.js"></script>s up there have this type of budget.

Its not easy to win the league and even before a ball is kicked we know who the top 3 is likely to be.

A team with less resources can defy the odds if they can buy wisely and manage to keep the team together long enough. Then with a good manager and an enormous slice of good fortune they might just win the league.

The problem most clubs have is that as soon as they start to do well their players leave are poached. Back to rebuilding again.

Then when you eventually have a strong starting 11 you have to keep the players fit during the season and this is where the good fortune comes in. Look at Leicester last year, record for lowest number of changes from their starting 11 throughout the season. And this year Chelsea are probably on course to beat that, I could literally name the Chelsea side now to play West Ham next week - Coutois, Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill, Moses, kante, Fabregas, Alonso, Pedro, Hazard, Costa. Its the same every week!

 

[Kellfire]

I could literally name the Chelsea side now to play West Ham next week - Coutois, Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill, Moses, kante, Fabregas, Alonso, Pedro, Hazard, Costa. Its the same every week!

While you might be right for the next game, that wasn't the Chelsea line up two matches ago in the league. Or three. Or four. Or five... I could go on.

 

[sawtooth]

While you might be right for the next game, that wasn't the Chelsea line up two matches ago in the league. Or three. Or four. Or five... I could go on.

Ah OK they might have occasionally switched a Pedro for Matic or whatever , but the mainstay of the team seems to be always the same.

I think Leicester made 33 changes during a whole season so you will expect some of course but compared to everyone else they did exceptionally well.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Its not easy to win the league and even before a ball is kicked we know who the top 3 is likely to be.

A team with less resources can defy the odds if they can buy wisely and manage to keep the team together long enough. Then with a good manager and an enormous slice of good fortune they might just win the league.

The problem most clubs have is that as soon as they start to do well their players leave are poached. Back to rebuilding again.

Then when you eventually have a strong starting 11 you have to keep the players fit during the season and this is where the good fortune comes in. Look at Leicester last year, record for lowest number of changes from their starting 11 throughout the season. And this year Chelsea are probably on course to beat that, I could literally name the Chelsea side now to play West Ham next week - Coutois, Azpilicueta, Luiz, Cahill, Moses, kante, Fabregas, Alonso, Pedro, Hazard, Costa. Its the same every week!

That's rubbish, you're talking about the top 3 when they are performing, arguably you's were in the best position to take advantage of those 3 teams having new managers, yes you may need to spend £300 million initially to get near them if you're starting from 7th or 8th, but you's haven't been that far behind and actually ahead at times, you's could've spent on 2 or 3 quality players and challenged seriously,
It gets to the point were you have to stop moaning about their spending.

 

[Fish]

Unbelievable isn't it.
If Arsenal were playing and losing there would be posts galore.
I can only put it down to SHOCK some thought Klopp was the answer but it looks like he is not.

I can actually see him walking.
Liverpool need to change and buy big if Klopp doesn't get the money to do this he could walk.

It was mentioned last night but imo any manager that thinks Lucas is a centre back is deluded and it defies belief that someone who gets paid a serious amount of money thinks he is.

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