As in the first 2 words of my post, I think, because that's how it comes across to me, and not just based on last night's 90 minutes but whenever I see them play, there's only 1 player IMO putting his heart & soul into winning and expressing it openly, the others to me are shoulder shruggers!
And, we're off.....2016/17
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As in the first 2 words of my post, I think, because that's how it comes across to me, and not just based on last night's 90 minutes but whenever I see them play, there's only 1 player IMO putting his heart & soul into winning and expressing it openly, the others to me are shoulder shruggers!
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Mark Clattenburg is quitting his job as a Premier League official to become Saudi Arabia's new head of referees :mmm:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38993655
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38993655
Apparently the average salary of a prem ref is around £70k, going up to £100k if they do enough matches. He will get extra as a UEFA ref for individual matches. Let's say he gets £120k, taxed at 40%. Anyone doubt he is getting at least double that tax free, maybe treble or more. It's a short life as a ref and this could set him up. Can't blame him
Big_G
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I wonder if he'll get a tattoo of ££££ to celebrate
clubchamp98
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bang on this we would love to have him.I agree. Sanchez is the only player who shows passion and spirit in the Arsenal camp. I do wonder how Klopp would use him....maybe an extra £2 on Arsenals release clause price would satisfy Wenger and the board
He should have come to Liverpool .
He is just wot we need will do you a swap for Sturridge he will fit in with all the lazy players at Arsenal.
Bunkermagnet
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Alan Smith says Arsene Wenger can secure his Arsenal legacy "in a heartbeat" by announcing now he will not sign a new deal. He goes on to say that Arsenal are in a rut and may need to go backwards to go forwards and he thinks that the fans will accept that, will you?
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I genuinely think you sum it up when you put groundhogday for them, a lot of teams in the PL would swap Arsenals last 10 years for their own, now they are realising that maybe 2-4 isn't good enough and standing still is not success.
Look at yourselves last season, the whole situation was embarrassing, but in hindsight if it means you's went backwards for 12 months to move forward then maybe that's no bad think for any club, the problem comes if a club fails to move forwards or how long they accept going backwards.
fundy
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not a lot of choice is there? Wenger goes at the end of the season you'd expect Sanchez and Ozil will both be off too. Whoever comes in is going to want to bring in their own staff and players and that doesnt happen overnight. Just depends how hard the landing is doesnt it, but its got to happen sooner rather than later. Big ask for whoever comes in to lose 2 or 3 of the biggest players and not go backwards during the period of adjustment
jp5
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What teams of similar financial standing would swap the last 10 years for Arsenal's?
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Didn't say all, just a lot, probably most except 5-6 imo.
Do you think if you look to drop out the top 4 Wenger will stay for another year as he'll attempt and want to finish more on a high, a bit like Fergie did but winged it very luckily it has to be said.
Maybe a new manager has a word with Sanchez, Ozil and a few others and gives them some assurances that aren't forthcoming now with Wenger and they in-turn give that new manager a chance, not such a fall then but could be very interesting if that new manager then got more out of the current team/squad, a bit like Conte is doing with us now.
Championship clubs have agreed 'in principle' to use goal line technology from the start of next season.
jp5
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But that's a pointless comparison isn't it?
Arsenal are one of the richest clubs in the world, of course most football teams would swap with them.
It's whether they've achieved relative to their potential that is in question.
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It would not surprise me one single bit to see Wenger sign the extension that has been offered - and that for me will be the signal for Sanchez to leave but not so sure about Ozil. I don't think many other managers would put up with his lack of effort and the appearance of not wanting to work hard for anything. If Ozil isn't in the mood then the team are playing with 10 men - think it's clear to see why Madrid didn't mind letting him go without much of a fight.
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Which is my point, offer a team 10 top 4 finishes in a row and add the CL qual and some other silverware and they'd snap your hand off, it's all relative to the Club, is it failure? No, but it's not success either for a club of Arsenal's stature or Chelsea or City or Man Utd or possibly Liverpool.
If Wenger goes and the new guy comes in, how long would you give him to win the PL or how do you gauge if he is taking you forward?
fundy
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genuinely think hes done and goes whatever happens now (but ive though that before lol)
Ozil is reputed to have said he will stay if Wenger does otherwise hes likely to go and just think Sanchez is ready to move on. Depends who hypothetically comes in and even moreso what money is offered no doubt and then what new signings are made quickly. My expectation are at the pessimistic end though
jp5
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I think you can tell - points wise Utd aren't any better off than they were under Moyes or LvG. But to me with Mourinho they look more like a Utd team, and heading in the right direction.
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The problem you'll face is that unless you get the right man to attract new players and fight off competition from Chelsea or City etc then you may drop out of the top 6, 1 season maybe ok but if that becomes 3-4 seasons then Wenger and top 4 only may not of been that bad!
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