And, we're off.....2016/17

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I'd be interested to know how long is enough time..?
This is his 3rd transfer window...How long does he get.?

Klopp has been at the club for 14 months now

In that period we have got to two finals , another semi final , gone from mid table to being a clear top four and maybe title challenger whilst playing a far better way than the previous management. Still got a good number of years yet before even looking at if it's long enough. Only have to look at the way Dortmund progressed with him to see that it's not and never will be an overnight fix.

Currently we are having a dip in form , just like Chelsea did , City did , Arsenal , Utd etc and we will recover from it and move on. It's massively disappointing to be knocked out of the cups in quick succession as the cups give a good day out and a chance of silverware but the main goal and aim right now is getting into the CL.

As for the rest of the nonsense being spouted on the thread - it was bad enough with the rubbish about the Cup and Southampton but a line was crossed with the "your kind " comment

As for the FA Cup - what a superb weekend for the lower league clubs - some fantastic results and hope they get some corking draws. But no matter how many times it's said now - the FA Cup no longer holds the same importance as what it used to, all I keep hearing on 5 Live is comments like "But it's the FA Cup " a so ? A lot of clubs have higher priorities now
 
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As for the FA Cup - what a superb weekend for the lower league clubs - some fantastic results and hope they get some corking draws. But no matter how many times it's said now - the FA Cup no longer holds the same importance as what it used to, all I keep hearing on 5 Live is comments like "But it's the FA Cup " a so ? A lot of clubs have higher priorities now

United have higher priorities but still show the FA Cup enormous respect by fielding a very strong side .......................... and for that I'm glad.
However, sadly though it is, I totally agree with your sentiment. That's what money can do!
 
United have higher priorities but still show the FA Cup enormous respect by fielding a very strong side .......................... and for that I'm glad.
However, sadly though it is, I totally agree with your sentiment. That's what money can do!

Is it not more a case that if Jose makes 9 changes to his starting line up he is bringing in players like Martial, Rashford, Shaw, Rooney, Mata, Schweinsteiger, Mhktarian etc who are recognised internationals. When Klopp makes 9 changes to his team he is bringing in unknown (to those that don't follow Liverpool) youngsters. The biggest difference is the strength in depth of the two squads.
 
Is it not more a case that if Jose makes 9 changes to his starting line up he is bringing in players like Martial, Rashford, Shaw, Rooney, Mata, Schweinsteiger, Mhktarian etc who are recognised internationals. When Klopp makes 9 changes to his team he is bringing in unknown (to those that don't follow Liverpool) youngsters. The biggest difference is the strength in depth of the two squads.

Yep summed it up well - UTD have a lot of expensive high earners sat on the bench or even not in match day squads so when it comes to cup matches can put a lot of international players into the line ups. Liverpool played a lot of kids - I was happy with it because it gives a lot of these kids valuable minutes on the pitch and you can start to figure out which ones won't make it
 
Would you rather Klopp made maybe 3 or 4 changes and put some of these youngsters into a team that contained some experienced players for them to learn from rather than lumping them all in together? I imagine they would learn a lot more from playing alongside Coutinho, Henderson etc rather than others their own age.
 
Would you rather Klopp made maybe 3 or 4 changes and put some of these youngsters into a team that contained some experienced players for them to learn from rather than lumping them all in together? I imagine they would learn a lot more from playing alongside Coutinho, Henderson etc rather than others their own age.

I think if we hadn't played Southampton on Wed and didn't have Chelsea on Tuesday than possibly a couple more could have played but a few have had injuries over the season like Henderson , Coutinho so a rest is good for them - it's very hard to find the balance with a small squad but they had enough on the pitch on Saturday to get a result - just didn't play well and Wolves defended superbly to restrict the space
 
Klopp has been at the club for 14 months now

In that period we have got to two finals , another semi final , gone from mid table to being a clear top four and maybe title challenger whilst playing a far better way than the previous management. Still got a good number of years yet before even looking at if it's long enough. Only have to look at the way Dortmund progressed with him to see that it's not and never will be an overnight fix.

Currently we are having a dip in form , just like Chelsea did , City did , Arsenal , Utd etc and we will recover from it and move on. It's massively disappointing to be knocked out of the cups in quick succession as the cups give a good day out and a chance of silverware but the main goal and aim right now is getting into the CL.

As for the rest of the nonsense being spouted on the thread - it was bad enough with the rubbish about the Cup and Southampton but a line was crossed with the "your kind " comment

As for the FA Cup - what a superb weekend for the lower league clubs - some fantastic results and hope they get some corking draws. But no matter how many times it's said now - the FA Cup no longer holds the same importance as what it used to, all I keep hearing on 5 Live is comments like "But it's the FA Cup " a so ? A lot of clubs have higher priorities now

You don't get a trophy for that nor is it an achievement of any kind :whistle: Fans want trophies do they not? And so far Klopp hasn't delivered any and they likely wont now until at least 2018.

How are you more of a top 4 side now compared to when BR was in charge? He finished the season 2nd, whereas Klopp was 8th last season wasn't he?
 
I stand corrected, but earlier today I saw Liverpools record for January and they have won one game V the mighty Plymouth. It looked like an horrendous month for them. Unless you take great joy in there struggles. But it looked like they had played a lot of games as well.
Irrespective of our views whether we think they are struggling or not, somebody at anfield must think they are struggling coz Mane is coming back from the African nations cup via private jet rather than Ryanair.
 
You don't get a trophy for that nor is it an achievement of any kind :whistle: Fans want trophies do they not? And so far Klopp hasn't delivered any and they likely wont now until at least 2018.

It's the stepping stone forward for us as opposed to the main achievement for a decade - getting CL football will hopefully allow the club to attract and pay for the top players we then need to go on to challenge and win the big titles. Fans do want trophies - especially the league and CL ones - that's the aim.
How are you more of a top 4 side now compared to when BR was in charge? He finished the season 2nd, whereas Klopp was 8th last season wasn't he?

Maybe because right now we are in the Top 4 where as with Rodgers we had one outstanding season on the back of a wonderful Suarez - the other two seasons were a 6th and 7th finish and mid table when he left . Klopp came in midway through last season.
 
It's the stepping stone forward for us as opposed to the main achievement for a decade - getting CL football will hopefully allow the club to attract and pay for the top players we then need to go on to challenge and win the big titles. Fans do want trophies - especially the league and CL ones - that's the aim.

Maybe because right now we are in the Top 4 where as with Rodgers we had one outstanding season on the back of a wonderful Suarez - the other two seasons were a 6th and 7th finish and mid table when he left . Klopp came in midway through last season.

you have to finish in the top 4... not just be there for a while....
 
I watched Arsenal on Match Of The Day last night - good win for Arsenal. But I was really annoyed with what the Pundits discussed after the game.

It was all about the return of Welbeck and yes he did well scoring 2 goals. But they didn't even mention once about Walcotts hatrick. He gets a rough deal and deserves much better IMHO.

Rant over.
 
I watched Arsenal on Match Of The Day last night - good win for Arsenal. But I was really annoyed with what the Pundits discussed after the game.

It was all about the return of Welbeck and yes he did well scoring 2 goals. But they didn't even mention once about Walcotts hatrick. He gets a rough deal and deserves much better IMHO.

Rant over.

I hear you but Welbeck been out since May and in many respects his brace was more impressive than Walcott's hatrick.

And he's like a new signing:D
 
I think it's disgusting, not just because it's us, I would think the same for any game or opposition, I'm confident at the time things were strung out massively when punchy went on the rampage in Southport!

The common man doesn't get these squeezes so why should professional people get them, double standards as usual and says more about the courts and legal system in Liverpool putting things like a footy match ahead of what simply should be just the law and nothing should change that date, I can't see why he couldn't have attended court in the day and played at night, what's the big deal, it's not like he's getting sent down, especially in a Liverpool court, standard loss of licence and a fine, crack on....he can afford a few taxi's or even employ a driver for a while, there's plenty unemployed up there that'll apply!
 
So he's gone out & endangered other people's life's by drink driving & the courts have said
Is Tuesday ok with you mate?
Or is Wednesday better?

What kind of message is this sending out?
 
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