And, we’re off.......2018/2019

pauldj42 said:
That’s the thing though mate, Pickford conceded more last season, but his good saves outweighed the bad.
Keeper mistakes get judged far more unfairly than the outfield players because of the consequences.
I’m not putting Foster down, I just believe we’ve been spoilt with keepers in the past.
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Pickford has the shirt at the moment and hasn’t done much wrong in an England shirt.
He plays in front of a quality defence for England and until he does start making errors why would Southgate drop him that dosnt make sense.
A settled side is what we want.
 
MetalMickie said:
Yet you over react with suggested punishments for the Club.

Fences are rightly not allowed so how are the Club able to prevent a determined idiot from getting on the pitch. There were plenty of stewards and police there but if there's a moron who has decided to invade the pitch and attack a player how is he to be stopped?

Around 23,500 Birmingham fans there but one idiot. Punishing the Club and the majority of supporters will not act as a deterrent.

Spectators could and should be scanned before entering the ground for knives and missiles. Glass bottles should be nowhere near the ground and how was someone allowed to take the golf ball into Ashton Gate that was thrown 12 days ago.
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It’s the clubs responsibility to ensure their fans behave in the correct way so why not punish them as well as the fan ? A fan was allowed to get onto the field and assault a player - the stewards clearly failed in their job , as well as another steward being taken away by the police - all across the continent clubs have been punished to the level of having to play behind closed doors - seems a good punishment to the club - one idiot got on the pitch , followed by a significant amount cheering his actions as if justifying it.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s the clubs responsibility to ensure their fans behave in the correct way so why not punish them as well as the fan ? A fan was allowed to get onto the field and assault a player - the stewards clearly failed in their job , as well as another steward being taken away by the police - all across the continent clubs have been punished to the level of having to play behind closed doors - seems a good punishment to the club - one idiot got on the pitch , followed by a significant amount cheering his actions as if justifying it.
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Whether clubs across the continent have been punished is irrelevant.

It is still the wrong people being punished and while the effects mics might suggest a " significant" amount of cheering the overwhelming majority of fans were stunned into virtual silence.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It’s the clubs responsibility to ensure their fans behave in the correct way so why not punish them as well as the fan ? A fan was allowed to get onto the field and assault a player - the stewards clearly failed in their job , as well as another steward being taken away by the police - all across the continent clubs have been punished to the level of having to play behind closed doors - seems a good punishment to the club
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It's a fans responsibility to behave not a clubs. If you went to a game, you would see how easy it is to get on to the pitch. Making the actions of a fan the responsibility of someone else is plain daft, IMO obviously.
 
Huge credit to Grealish for not letting the incident affect his game and great to see him get the winning goal to rub their noses in it. His post match interview showed great maturiity focusing on how how proud he was to lead the team out and score the winner. Well done Jack.
Punishments- the perp needs a lifetime ban from football, unlikely to get a prison term unless he has previous, but the club will get hammered even though I agree its so difficult to stop someone coming onto the pitch. A fine, points deduction and games behind closed doors. Birmingham fans cheering the idiot coming on was a disgrace. Should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Shocking lazy goal to give away, very poor performance, no width, can’t cross a ball, set pieces are rubbish, you can shove this Sarri ball where the sun don’t shine 😡

Hopefully with the subs RLC & CHO they will grab this game by the scuff of the neck and take Wolves on.
 
paddyc said:
Huge credit to Grealish for not letting the incident affect his game and great to see him get the winning goal to rub their noses in it. His post match interview showed great maturiity focusing on how how proud he was to lead the team out and score the winner. Well done Jack.
Punishments- the perp needs a lifetime ban from football, unlikely to get a prison term unless he has previous, but the club will get hammered even though I agree its so difficult to stop someone coming onto the pitch. A fine, points deduction and games behind closed doors. Birmingham fans cheering the idiot coming on was a disgrace. Should be ashamed of themselves.
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Precedent was set when the authorities applied none of those punishments to Leeds United when one of their fans came onto the pitch and punched Chris Kirkland.
 
Fish said:
Shocking lazy goal to give away, very poor performance, no width, can’t cross a ball, set pieces are rubbish, you can shove this Sarri ball where the sun don’t shine 😡

Hopefully with the subs RLC & CHO they will grab this game by the scuff of the neck and take Wolves on.
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Looks like your boys are playing to forfeiting their win bonus just to bin the manager.
 
Old Skier said:
It's a fans responsibility to behave not a clubs. If you went to a game, you would see how easy it is to get on to the pitch. Making the actions of a fan the responsibility of someone else is plain daft, IMO obviously.
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Plenty of clubs and indeed countries have been punished because of the actions on their fans - sorry but both are responsible for their actions and both must face punishment and rightly so. When a steward is also taken away by the police then it just adds to the embarrassment - fans were cheering the intruders actions as well as disgraceful songs about his young brother who died
 
Old Skier said:
Looks like your boys are playing to forfeiting their win bonus just to bin the manager.
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I don’t accept that, the 2nd half has shown a lot more intent but Sarri hasn’t changed the tactics and it’s comfortable for Wolves to defend against, in numbers!
 
Tashyboy said:
I totally agree with you and that is why
1, he should be sent down for 10 years. It will be a deterant. Dont anyone try and convince me we need to know why he did it. He had a terrible upbringing. Etc etc. Hes a *** end of story.
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Sorry tash but we can’t even get judges to hand out 10 years to knifes carriers !! (Carry a knife get life imo) so they won’t send him down for more than 12 months
 
We’ve done a Utd, stoppage time equaliser, it was always going to take something special, and Hazard delivered, but questions still need to be asked.
 
What if he had a knife and stabbed him?

What if he had a gun and shot him?

What if he had a bazooka and blew up the whole Villa team?

What if he had a helicopter and killed all the Villa fans, too?

What if he had an atomic bomb and destroyed Birmingham?

What if what if what if.
 
Kellfire said:
You want to imprison people for life for carrying a knife? Ah brilliant.
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Not the thread for it.. but when you get innocent 17 yo stabbed to death in a park due to someone doing “gang initiation” then year I do believe it. Stronger sentences deter.
 
paddyc said:
The authorities need to make an example of Birmingham so fans will think twice before entering the field of play or do we go back to fences to keep players safe( which we dont want). What next a player being stabbed.
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Do you include every fan that comes onto the pitch.

After all their intentions are unknown.

In any event deterrent type punishments have no effect upon the type of brainless moron we saw this afternoon.

Fuelled by booze and quite possibly cocaine these types don't stop and think before acting.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Plenty of clubs and indeed countries have been punished because of the actions on their fans - sorry but both are responsible for their actions and both must face punishment and rightly so. When a steward is also taken away by the police then it just adds to the embarrassment - fans were cheering the intruders actions as well as disgraceful songs about his young brother who died
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You seem to know an awful lot about what was happening at the ground I am surprised I didn't see you there.

The steward was guilty of trying to return players to their rightful place the other side of the hoardings.
 
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