And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Lyle77]

Fantastic match last night between Leeds and Derby in the second leg of the playoff. True end to end match with both teams going for it. A shame for Leeds having beat Derby three times this season and finishing 9 points ahead but that it is part and parcel of the playoff system. Leeds were made to pay dearly for losing their concentration at the end of the first half and the start of the second half. It would have been nice to have seen a Bielsa led side in the Premier League. Hopefully, Bielsa will stay for another season as his team is very exciting.

However, with either Villa or Derby getting promoted it is good that there is going to be another English manager in the Premier League.

 

[Tashyboy]

Fantastic match last night between Leeds and Derby in the second leg of the playoff. True end to end match with both teams going for it. A shame for Leeds having beat Derby three times this season and finishing 9 points ahead but that it is part and parcel of the playoff system. Leeds were made to pay dearly for losing their concentration at the end of the first half and the start of the second half. It would have been nice to have seen a Bielsa led side in the Premier League. Hopefully, Bielsa will stay for another season as his team is very exciting.

However, with either Villa or Derby getting promoted it is good that there is going to be another English manager in the Premier League.

What was going on with the keeper and defender. And it wasn't just the once. Cant help but think that once Leeds were caught “ spying” on opposition teams, they went backwards.
Gonna be nice seeing the Chelsea trio eyeing one another up in the final aka Cole and Lampard V Terry.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

It looks increasingly like City are going to be banned for a season from the CL. Not going to be good for the other top teams in the PL if that is the case, fewer games for them to play, fewer distractions, fewer injuries etc.

One for Tashy and Amanda, will City fans care? I know the owners, manager and players will but I am not sure the City fans feel any love for the CL. This might suit them, concentrate purely on 3 in a row.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Fantastic match last night between Leeds and Derby in the second leg of the playoff. True end to end match with both teams going for it. A shame for Leeds having beat Derby three times this season and finishing 9 points ahead but that it is part and parcel of the playoff system. Leeds were made to pay dearly for losing their concentration at the end of the first half and the start of the second half. It would have been nice to have seen a Bielsa led side in the Premier League. Hopefully, Bielsa will stay for another season as his team is very exciting.

However, with either Villa or Derby getting promoted it is good that there is going to be another English manager in the Premier League.

Great game and watched the first half at supper club at the golf club with two Leeds fans including the VC. Glad I didn't watch the rest as they were having kittens especially after that keeper/defender howler for the first goal. I wonder if Bielsa will stay or be allowed to stay (Leeds record of sacking managers is legendary in the last few years) and definitely think since he came out about the spying their form dropped significantly. Did he carry on doing it? Having such detailed dossiers on each opposition clearly helped them get to the top of the league and I'm just wondering if they stopped and so lost a vital edge somewhere in preparation

 

[Tashyboy]

It looks increasingly like City are going to be banned for a season from the CL. Not going to be good for the other top teams in the PL if that is the case, fewer games for them to play, fewer distractions, fewer injuries etc.

One for Tashy and Amanda, will City fans care? I know the owners, manager and players will but I am not sure the City fans feel any love for the CL. This might suit them, concentrate purely on 3 in a row.

I
was starting to feel the love for the champs league. But the noisy neighbours are not welcome at the top table. Both here and in europe. City get a one year ban for overspending. Utd for over spending get Olly for one year. Gonna do a big write up on City once the FA cup is done. But if City do get a ban. Chances are it wont be next season if they go through appeal process.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

It looks increasingly like City are going to be banned for a season from the CL. Not going to be good for the other top teams in the PL if that is the case, fewer games for them to play, fewer distractions, fewer injuries etc.

One for Tashy and Amanda, will City fans care? I know the owners, manager and players will but I am not sure the City fans feel any love for the CL. This might suit them, concentrate purely on 3 in a row.

I see there is no mention of a premier league punishment......I believe the modern term is "financial doping".

 

[clubchamp98]

Fantastic match last night between Leeds and Derby in the second leg of the playoff. True end to end match with both teams going for it. A shame for Leeds having beat Derby three times this season and finishing 9 points ahead but that it is part and parcel of the playoff system. Leeds were made to pay dearly for losing their concentration at the end of the first half and the start of the second half. It would have been nice to have seen a Bielsa led side in the Premier League. Hopefully, Bielsa will stay for another season as his team is very exciting.

However, with either Villa or Derby getting promoted it is good that there is going to be another English manager in the Premier League.

Bit of a joke that a team finishing 9 points below you can be promoted while you stay in champs.
The league table dosnt lie.
Playoffs should be scrapped.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

It looks increasingly like City are going to be banned for a season from the CL. Not going to be good for the other top teams in the PL if that is the case, fewer games for them to play, fewer distractions, fewer injuries etc.

One for Tashy and Amanda, will City fans care? I know the owners, manager and players will but I am not sure the City fans feel any love for the CL. This might suit them, concentrate purely on 3 in a row.

I must confess I love the irony of the City fans whistling the CL anthem before each game, yet know that there are many players who only go to teams(theirs included) to play CL footy.

 

[clubchamp98]

I
was starting to feel the love for the champs league. But the noisy neighbours are not welcome at the top table. Both here and in europe. City get a one year ban for overspending. Utd for over spending get Olly for one year. Gonna do a big write up on City once the FA cup is done. But if City do get a ban. Chances are it wont be next season if they go through appeal process.

If overspending gives you an advantage in CL .
It also gives you one in the premier league so hand that back ASAP.
Teams have done this for years but nothing has been done as clever accountants have hidden everything.
Imagine EUFA accusing someone of financial irregularities, you couldn’t make it up.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Football is the only sport I know where there is sometimes genuine hatred between supporters of different teams.

Mostly it’s just partisan, almost tribal rivalry, which as long as it’s good humoured isn’t a problem

That’s football

This is a golf forum, we tolerate football threads, we could easily ban football and religion and politics threads, but that would devalue the forum in my view.

Re Liverpool specifically, you have “history” Heysel and Hillsborough happened, both tragic events. But they happened, and sometimes these events will get mentioned in the course of debate.

Of course the context is everything and if the post is out of order, report it and we will look at it and take action if we think it appropriate, what you don’t see is the editing , warning and infractions we issue behind the scenes.

There are so many posts in this thread it’s impossible for the mods to police it fully, so if you see something that is obviously wrong, report it.

And if you drop another F bomb I’ll do you, I’ve edited it as it’s a very emotive subject and you were clearly angry, but no need for that.

But whats the point of reporting it time and time and time again if nothing gets done long term?

The same cowards keep posting the same bile, and return a day or two later or a week later and do it again.

Ive been on this thread for nearly ten years and will debate football till the cows come home but recently its been taken over by the loons.

Its trolling, and its absolutely obvious.

 

[Dando]

Bit of a joke that a team finishing 9 points below you can be promoted while you stay in champs.
The league table dosnt lie.
Playoffs should be scrapped.

I said the exact same thing to a colleague this morning but at the end of the day it all comes down to ££££££

 

[Orikoru]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really wanted Leeds to go up! Big club who have been away far too long, and Bielsa is a great character. Bit of a shame they bottled it last night big style. So we have the choice of Frank Lampard's Derby or John Terry's Villa now. Joy.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really wanted Leeds to go up! Big club who have been away far too long, and Bielsa is a great character. Bit of a shame they bottled it last night big style. So we have the choice of Frank Lampard's Derby or John Terry's Villa now. Joy.

I grew up in the NW and came across a good number of Leeds fans back then. They were particularly arrogant, racist and angry, in large numbers. The new Leeds fans are likely to be entirely different, different generation etc, but the memory of that tends to stick. They have been out of the PL for so long that people like me have not come across them for a very long time so the image is still the dated one. I am sure my memory of the club is one held by many, hence the dislike. They need to get promoted and play nicely with everyone for a season or two, , for that to change.

 

[Papas1982]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really wanted Leeds to go up! Big club who have been away far too long, and Bielsa is a great character. Bit of a shame they bottled it last night big style. So we have the choice of Frank Lampard's Derby or John Terry's Villa now. Joy.

Tbh. Both the clubs left can claim to be just as big going by historical success.

The fact one lot are noisier than the other is another story altogether.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Ive been on this thread for nearly ten years and will debate football till the cows come home but recently its been taken over by the loons.

I have also been on this thread for a number of years but post on it relatively rarely.

The reason being that it never has truly been a debate about football but merely an exercise in tribal, tit for tat, sniping.

Perhaps that is what now passes for debate but I am afraid that it doesn't fit my idea.

 

[Orikoru]

I grew up in the NW and came across a good number of Leeds fans back then. They were particularly arrogant, racist and angry, in large numbers. The new Leeds fans are likely to be entirely different, different generation etc, but the memory of that tends to stick. They have been out of the PL for so long that people like me have not come across them for a very long time so the image is still the dated one. I am sure my memory of the club is one held by many, hence the dislike. They need to get promoted and play nicely with everyone for a season or two, , for that to change.

I get that most people hate Leeds, that's why I qualified it as an unpopular opinion. But I remember them having players like Radebe, Yeboah, then Kewell & Viduka. They were a quality Prem side, then the board made some horrible decisions and they plummeted.

Tbh. Both the clubs left can claim to be just as big going by historical success.

The fact one lot are noisier than the other is another story altogether.

Derby and Villa have both been up more recently than Leeds though. Would have liked to see them back up there, but wasn't to be. I suppose I'd rather see Frank Lampard's Derby go up than Villa.

This is probably opening a whole new can of worms, but I think it's silly that both of those clubs' best players are all on loan from big six Prem teams. Pointless going up with those players and then having to replace them all immediately.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Ironic that the two clubs in the Championship play-off final are two of those questioned by the Middlesbrough owner for significant manipulation of the FFP Rules.

You can see why some may think it is a risk worth taking.

 

[Papas1982]

I get that most people hate Leeds, that's why I qualified it as an unpopular opinion. But I remember them having players like Radebe, Yeboah, then Kewell & Viduka. They were a quality Prem side, then the board made some horrible decisions and they plummeted.


Derby and Villa have both been up more recently than Leeds though. Would have liked to see them back up there, but wasn't to be. I suppose I'd rather see Frank Lampard's Derby go up than Villa.

This is probably opening a whole new can of worms, but I think it's silly that both of those clubs' best players are all on loan from big six Prem teams. Pointless going up with those players and then having to replace them all immediately.

Tbf of they get promotion then they may have a chance to keep em another season. Realistically a player that's being loaned in the championship isn't likely to get into a top 6 side next season.

Re the players you mention. Yeboah was with them when they were a mid table team. Kewell and Viduka were definitely there during the decent time they had.

 

[Orikoru]

Tbf of they get promotion then they may have a chance to keep em another season. Realistically a player that's being loaned in the championship isn't likely to get into a top 6 side next season.

Re the players you mention. Yeboah was with them when they were a mid table team. Kewell and Viduka were definitely there during the decent time they had.

Yeboah was class though. Banging screamers every week. (In reality he probably only scored a handful that were replayed endlessly, lol.) I think it's just my generation though, when I started watching football they were a solid Prem team, then they got better and started competing - then they just kind of vanished. In a nine year stretch they finished top five 7 times, that's pretty good going. Then it was 15th, 19th, and they were gone. I would have liked to see them come back.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I get that most people hate Leeds, that's why I qualified it as an unpopular opinion. But I remember them having players like Radebe, Yeboah, then Kewell & Viduka. They were a quality Prem side, then the board made some horrible decisions and they plummeted.

That side with O'Leary was great to see, it was a romantic story. I'm not sure why the unpopularity stuck after that but it did. That team should have banished those old memories.

Good points you make about the loans etc, I wasn't aware of that.