And, we’re off.......2018/2019

Quality finish, love him or loathe him, he’ll get you goals all day long, even when he stays on his feet 😉
 
Fish said:
Quality finish, love him or loathe him, he’ll get you goals all day long, even when he stays on his feet 😉
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Pleased for him from when he wasn't producing for country as he was for club.
Credit to him, Southgate, Pep?
Or all of the above
 
MetalMickie said:
I would be fascinated to hear how he was supposed to not go down with that contact.
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if he wasnt trying to go down he would never have gone down, as simple as that. hes not tripped up, hes not brought down, he jumps into the defender, and then falls down. At best it was obstruction, run into the defender and get baulked, yes he gets stopped but none of that causes him to go to ground. You seriously think a rugby player goes down in that situation? of course not because hes doing everything to stay on his feet not everything to go to ground under the slightest of touches. why do people keep wanting to excuse/praise what is clearly simulation and not natural?
 
fundy said:
if he wasnt trying to go down he would never have gone down, as simple as that. hes not tripped up, hes not brought down, he jumps into the defender, and then falls down. At best it was obstruction, run into the defender and get baulked, yes he gets stopped but none of that causes him to go to ground. You seriously think a rugby player goes down in that situation? of course not because hes doing everything to stay on his feet not everything to go to ground under the slightest of touches. why do people keep wanting to excuse/praise what is clearly simulation and not natural?
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He jumped because he saw the 2 closing him down, his options were either attempt to jump through them or get squashed, as was discussed at half time 1 player on their own not an issue, both coming together and the No 2 turning his back Sterling was knocked over.
 
Good performance and good start to the campaign.
Sterling gets MoM, but it was Henderson for me, certainly helped by Dier going off injured.





And another clean sheet for England’s No1. ;)
 
pauldj42 said:
He jumped because he saw the 2 closing him down, his options were either attempt to jump through them or get squashed, as was discussed at half time 1 player on their own not an issue, both coming together and the No 2 turning his back Sterling was knocked over.
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he jumped because he knew that enabled him to go down and have the best chance of "winning" a penalty, it is not a natural reaction at all, it is a trained reaction sadly, the natural reaction would be to push your way through
 
fundy said:
he jumped because he knew that enabled him to go down and have the best chance of "winning" a penalty, it is not a natural reaction at all, it is a trained reaction sadly, the natural reaction would be to push your way through
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Not for a professional footballer it’s not, a push is giving away a foul.
 
Good display some really nice football.
Best game in an England shirt for Sterling.
Barkley also played well.
Nice to see the young lads this will do them good.
Dissapointed with Chech,s thought they were better and would give us a test.

We played well once Barkley came on which means the manager has to be more attack minded and he got it wrong playing Dier and Henderson together.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Good display some really nice football.
Best game in an England shirt for Sterling.
Barkley also played well.
Nice to see the young lads this will do them good.
Dissapointed with Chech,s thought they were better and would give us a test.

We played well once Barkley came on which means the manager has to be more attack minded and he got it wrong playing Dier and Henderson together.
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You can’t say he got Dier and Henderson wrong, all you can say is the forced change didn’t do us any harm.
 
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fundy said:
if he wasnt trying to go down he would never have gone down, as simple as that. hes not tripped up, hes not brought down, he jumps into the defender, and then falls down. At best it was obstruction, run into the defender and get baulked, yes he gets stopped but none of that causes him to go to ground. You seriously think a rugby player goes down in that situation? of course not because hes doing everything to stay on his feet not everything to go to ground under the slightest of touches. why do people keep wanting to excuse/praise what is clearly simulation and not natural?
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That's probably the most ridiculous description and excuse for a prejudice I have ever heard, even on here.

I don't see what relevance a rugby player has to the situation where the body dynamics are entirely different.

The Czech no:2 blocked him and the no:6 took his legs.

On some occasions Sterling, like most players, had gone to ground easily but there was no way that he could avoid hitting the deck on this occasion.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Good display some really nice football.
Best game in an England shirt for Sterling.
Barkley also played well.
Nice to see the young lads this will do them good.
Dissapointed with Chech,s thought they were better and would give us a test.

We played well once Barkley came on which means the manager has to be more attack minded and he got it wrong playing Dier and Henderson together.
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Against opposition like we faced tonight We should definitely be going more attack minded.
Playing both Henderson & Dier isn’t that.
Great result & good performance tonight,even tho it was against a poor side.
 
pauldj42 said:
You can’t say he got Dier and Henderson wrong, all you can say is the forced change didn’t does us any harm.
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Yes you can, it’s not only an opinion, but it’s a factual observation, in that Barkley was instrumental in so many positive moves which led to goals, his vision & passing through the channels for players to run onto and open up space is something that Dier hasn’t got on his locker, it would have been sideways & backwards from him, so yes, a Henderson/Dier combi doesn’t work for me, especially if you want to take the game to the opposition.
 
Fish said:
Yes you can, it’s not only an opinion, but it’s a factual observation, in that Barkley was instrumental in so many positive moves which led to goals, his vision & passing through the channels for players to run onto and open up space is something that Dier hasn’t got on his locker, it would have been sideways & backwards from him, so yes, a Henderson/Dier combi doesn’t work for me, especially if you want to take the game to the opposition.
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That’s hindsight, whose to say we wouldn’t of won 6-0 with Henderson and Dier on the pitch.

I put myself that Henderson was imo MoM because Dier went off, Henderson moved in to the Dier role, if it hadn’t of been so early in the match he may not of brought Barkley on.

First match of the qualifying group against possibly the next strongest team in the group he was always going to solid, almost boring at the back.
 
England will do nothing in the Euros playing it safe.
Defensively we’re no where near good enough & will get found out against the better teams.

In attack we have have some quality players.
I’d like to see us go for it a bit more in the big games.
 
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