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So the social media chat yesterday is looking to have a lot of truth behind it - interesting choice and also in some ways surprising that he is reportedly leaving a full time role to be a caretaker - I suspect the job at Molde will still be leave at the end of the season for him. I don’t think it’s an appointment to get them into top 4

I heard season in Norway has finished, so he can do the job till the end of the season and go back. Makes no odds really, as long as he unites the dressing room and gets the players playing with passion for the club then I don't care.
 

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Yeah league season has finished for Molde and they're out of the Europa League so Solskjaer could always go back although it obviously wouldn't be ideal for them. I think he'd be great for United though. Fans love him, his team were the highest scoring team in the Norwegian league, he's incredibly passionate about Manchester United. It might not work out which is why you bring him in as a caretaker to begin with but who knows, could work out great for them.
 

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No mate, you misunderstand the timing.

Our last league win was 1990, but we'd stopped singing about them about 3-5 years before that. one other thing we pride ourselves on is not singing many generic songs that all clubs sing. We either start them and get copied, or sing our own ones - google "Scouser Tommy" for a start. The same with banners - no Union jacks and St Georgs flags with club name on for us.

TBF to Man U, they are probably the only other prem club who also have a quality control when it comes to songs (overall), although that went a bit south on Sunday with quite a few generic ones as well as 20 songs about us....again. :p They are one of the most vocal away crods though.

Cant believe some getting their knickers in a twist over a few harmless memes. Their fanbase always give this "biggest in the world" malarkey, well dont be surprised when rivals as well as others revel in a crisis. It happened with us, Chelsea's temporary fall from grace. Arsene/Arsenal. If/when city get arrogant or have a decade or more of success, same will happen with them.

The thing is now, you have had an aligning of the stars of the most arrogant manager alongside one of the most arrogant fanbases - human nature and the English mentality for bringing people down is only going to go one way.

Utd fans were always going to sing songs about Liverpool whilst playing Liverpool. In fairness, in the 35 years i've been going, songs are sung about City and Liverpool in equal measure, with the odd smattering of Leeds thrown in. I think rivalry is a great thing as it pushes you forward. It's not our time right now , so I accept all the banter that's thrown our way, what i read on here is nothing compared to what I get at work from the blue noses and the scousers :) If you give it, you have to take it.

I actually saw a lot of passion a few of the players on Sunday, which shows that they understand the rivalry. Despite being outclassed, I still like to see players put in a shift, and if we had been more organised and tactically astute we might have got something out of it. Through my red tinted glasses, I thought we had weathered the storm but Shaquiri made the difference when he came on. Firmino was class too. Like I said earlier in this thread, it shows Jose's mentality when he brings on Fellani when you have Martial (arguably our best player this year) , Mata and Pogba on the bench.
 

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I think I got the timing mate. You stopped singing whilst you were the top dogs. So your fans could say, “we’re so much better, we don’t even consider you on match day”. Not that I knock that.

The bit in bold, you’ll know better than me. Did you have them Pre thatcher? Basically, was it a movement to be less cliche or more around the same time you decided you were scouse not English? 😉

I’m one of the few who actually rates (rated Mourinho), or at least liked him a bit. I think if he takes a year or so off he has the ability to change. He had a style which for a decade was guaranteed to succeed but now footy has changed. A break could see him develop new tactics.

I think the problem I’ve had with Utd fans, living first in Southampton and now in Kent is, like you say the arrogance. So many fans who’s grandad lived in Manchester mocking little old saints when they’ve been no further north than the m25.

TBH there wasnt a conscious decision or something that changed it overnight (no internet in them days, my friend :)), just something that gained momentum over a few years.

Union jacks - I think everyone had them in the 70's, but as the 80's dawned for some reason Liverpool fans started to move away from it - possibly the Joey Jones banner in Rome in 1977 started it all off. The Scouse not English has only come about over the last 10 years from badges/banners, but I think has been part of our DNA for 30-40 years. It is said that Liverpool is in England, but not part of it - sums it up, to us.

Arrogance - all football fans can be guilty of it, including us, but only a bronze for us behind Man U and Chelsea.:LOL:
 

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Utd fans were always going to sing songs about Liverpool whilst playing Liverpool. In fairness, in the 35 years i've been going, songs are sung about City and Liverpool in equal measure, with the odd smattering of Leeds thrown in. I think rivalry is a great thing as it pushes you forward. It's not our time right now , so I accept all the banter that's thrown our way, what i read on here is nothing compared to what I get at work from the blue noses and the scousers :) If you give it, you have to take it.

I actually saw a lot of passion a few of the players on Sunday, which shows that they understand the rivalry. Despite being outclassed, I still like to see players put in a shift, and if we had been more organised and tactically astute we might have got something out of it. Through my red tinted glasses, I thought we had weathered the storm but Shaquiri made the difference when he came on. Firmino was class too. Like I said earlier in this thread, it shows Jose's mentality when he brings on Fellani when you have Martial (arguably our best player this year) , Mata and Pogba on the bench.

Yep, but the main point was singing about rivals when not playing them.

As I said to you at the beginning of the season - If Mourinho has the guts to play Lukaku, Martial and rashford in a 4-3-3 up top, United could be some attacking force. He didnt have the guts.
 

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Me finks utds £380 million paid out for players plus £20 odd million in sacking maureen bought pain and misery. 👍

Indeed, but that money was earned through football ........................... you know how it goes Tashy, and I will continue banging on about it until we get bought out by a mega-rich sugar daddy, at which point, there would be nothing wrong with that! :oops:
 

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The difference is that L'pool earned the bragging rights, City merely bought theirs! :whistle:
I know it was said in jest, probably, but they were different era's. In the 70's and 80's you could build a team with modest outlay. Yes, certain teams paid bigger wages but the teams that challenged for the title in those era's showed the wide spread that was possible. In the current era City had to buy their players for big money, same as Liverpool had to pay big money for VVD and Allison, same as any team who wants to be at the top has to pay big money. It is the way of it now. The title has been bought pretty much from day 1 of the PL with the one possible exception of Leicester.
 
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I know it was said in jest, probably, but they were different era's. In the 70's and 80's you could build a team with modest outlay. Yes, certain teams paid bigger wages but the teams that challenged for the title in those era's showed the wide spread that was possible. In the current era City had to buy their players for big money, same as Liverpool had to pay big money for VVD and Allison, same as any team who wants to be at the top has to pay big money. It is the way of it now. The title has been bought pretty much from day 1 of the PL with the one possible exception of Leicester.

That overlooks the fact that had they not completely ignored the FFP Rules of the EFL they would have been unlikely to have got out of League 1 let alone win the PL.
 

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That overlooks the fact that had they not completely ignored the FFP Rules of the EFL they would have been unlikely to have got out of League 1 let alone win the PL.
Very fair point, although was FFP going back then?, but Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool all got to their levels before FFP was introduced and so did not need the boost of spending required by City to get where they are. It's a similar argument to that used by developig countries regarding emmissions, pollution etc.

You are correct though.
 
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Very fair point, although was FFP going back then?, but Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool all got to their levels before FFP was introduced and so did not need the boost of spending required by City to get where they are. It's a similar argument to that used by developig countries regarding emmissions, pollution etc.

You are correct though.

Oh yes! Leicester took the risk and it paid off.

By the time the EFL were able to catch up with them they had been promoted to the PL so the resulting fine of, I believe, £8 million was a small price to pay.

Bournemouth had a similar fine.
 

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Indeed, but that money was earned through football ........................... you know how it goes Tashy, and I will continue banging on about it until we get bought out by a mega-rich sugar daddy, at which point, there would be nothing wrong with that! :oops:

Yep. Whilst at the same time servicing the huge debt put on the club by the Glazers and while they’re also paying themselves ridiculous annual bonuses. It should never of been allowed to happen.

As much as I dislike the Glazers I’d still rather MUFCs revenue come from football related business rather than a bottomless pit of oil money. Victory feels a little more ‘organic’ that way.
 

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Oh yes! Leicester took the risk and it paid off.

By the time the EFL were able to catch up with them they had been promoted to the PL so the resulting fine of, I believe, £8 million was a small price to pay.

Bournemouth had a similar fine.
Not much of a deterrent is it? Slap them with a fine that's less than the cost of one mediocre player.
 

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That overlooks the fact that had they not completely ignored the FFP Rules of the EFL they would have been unlikely to have got out of League 1 let alone win the PL.
This conversation was going quite well til You posted that rammel. For the record we were already in the prem in a state of the art stadium before oil
Money came along. 👍
 

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Oh yes! Leicester took the risk and it paid off.

By the time the EFL were able to catch up with them they had been promoted to the PL so the resulting fine of, I believe, £8 million was a small price to pay.

Bournemouth had a similar fine.
So we are not the only ones who have done it. Plus spending money does not guarantee success or a decent standard if football. Never mind trophies.
 
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Not much of a deterrent is it? Slap them with a fine that's less than the cost of one mediocre player.

Absolutely, but then I think FFP is wrong.

If an owner wishes to pump money into his Club in an attempt to make them competitive then that, to me, is their business.

After all there's not a successful club in the last 60 years who hasn't benefited from the financial support of directors and owners.
 
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This conversation was going quite well til You posted that rammel. For the record we were already in the prem in a state of the art stadium before oil
Money came along. 👍

I presume that the use of the word "rammel" means you consider my remarks were aimed at Man City.

Do you not read posts before replying?

I have made absolutely no reference to your Club.
 
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This conversation was going quite well til You posted that rammel. For the record we were already in the prem in a state of the art stadium before oil
Money came along. 👍

You did have Thai money before that as well though - and it was a stadium that was “rented” or given to City , the “Oil” money gave City the success - I believe Slimes point is other teams have used money gained from success to buy players etc etc

And also believe the comment was more aimed towards Leicester who spent beyond FFP to help them get into the Prem
 
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