Tashyboy
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Sorry MM my mistake. Having read most posts a dozen times re FFP City always come up first. It becomes somewhat tiring reading the same “oil money†posts.
And, we’re off.......2018/2019
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Tashyboy
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Phil it is nit possible to try and summarise Citys position now in a few sentances. Re the stadium that City are now in. If you have five mins have a look on wikipedia re how City ended up there. If City had not moved they had already drawn up plans to extend Maine rd. ( plans which Missis T bought for me a few years ago as a crimbo pressie). They were linked with stadiums all around Manchester from Olympic stadiums to the now ex commonwralth stadium. The eastlands were the stadium is, was formerly known as the wastelands With coal mines ( dad worked there at Bradford Colliery) gas works etc etc. It was an. Industrial wasteland which is now a thriving area of Manchester. That is down to Oil Money. They now have a thriving acadamy, the envy of most clubs. Again with oil money. Players inc Sterling have been bought with oil
Money. Players from Arsenal, spurs, leicester etc etc with oul money. City through there owners have brought money into football. How much have the Glaziers brought into football. If players were bought with success from there clubs. How did Liverpool
Buy anyone. As i said to MM and apologised to him. It gets tiresome answering the same questions.
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No problem.
I think most people would agree that the money going into city from the oil guys has actually produced some (lots of) good. But, and it’s a big one. All of it, the regeneration, the stadium improvements the style of play. It’s all because of the oil money.
Money doesn’t guarantee success, lots have spent loads and failed, but quite simply. Without the investment you wouldn’t be where you are. So whilst it may get tiresome to hear, it’s how it is. You’re better off ignoring it, because as much as Utd have spent in recent years, it’s their money, accrued due to football and that’s all that matters in this debate when oil cubs get hammered.
For the record, I think the prem is better for the investment. It could be argued that the Premiership was to the detriment of English football, but the oil clubs have certainly made this era more competitive than it would have been, have they not arrived.
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This is sums it up a lot Tashy
Yes City have put a lot of money into the sport - and no doubt that level of money has helped a lot of people but it’s the only reason City are where they are - yes Money doesn’t guarantee success but it goes a long way.
The money enabled City to buy player after player after player both first team and youth - it was the money that brought in the top managers to mould the players and those managers will just keep on spending . When a club doesn’t need to balance the books to be able to spend or it doesn’t need to sell prize assets to get spending money in then it adds imbalance.
Other clubs have spent money - Liverpool , Spurs , Utd - but the money they have spent doesn’t come from deep personal pockets of an owner - it’s money earnt either from player sales , commercial revenue or prize money. Those clubs are self sufficient with small levels of leveraged debt ( well utds is coming down ) - would City keep to the same high levels without the oil money ( that includes the dubious “sponsership†) - highly doubtful , I’m not sure what Chelsea self sufficiency is like now but they also had a to spend a lot of oil money to win what they did and get to where they are
The question is - has it improved the Prem ? I don’t honestly know - it has bought a lot of outstanding highly talent players into then league , has it made it more competitive? Not sure as well - Liverpool for example right now are having their best start to season ever - only one point ahead of City .
And Tashyboy - you don’t have to answer the same questions, what I have found with yourself and a lot of City fans is the lack of acceptance that your club is only where you are now because of one person and his deep personal pockets and having no issues spending his vast fortune - regardless of other areas the money has helped - it has helped City win titles
Pin-seeker
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Pretty sure all this as been discussed once or twice on here before 🤔
Kellfire
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City spend a lot of money on PR exercises because their owners are basically evil.
fundy
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For all the plaudits Emery is getting, keeping Xhaka and Iwobi and getting rid of Ramsey - I just dont get it and dont think I ever will
USER1999
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I don't think Ramseys contract situation is much to do with Emery. Apart from him not sanctioning 350k a week. To me, that is too much.
Not sure about Iwobi, and Xhaka seems better with Torreira.
I am happy to give Emery the benefit, but I agree, I like Ramsey, when he is fit.
Not sure about Iwobi, and Xhaka seems better with Torreira.
I am happy to give Emery the benefit, but I agree, I like Ramsey, when he is fit.
fundy
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350k? he was happy to sign for 200k (still utterly exorbitant) on all accounts
fundy
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sanchez, ozil, ramsey. monreal, wellbeck all badly managed contracts in the last year or two
Pin-seeker
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£350k for Ramsey 😱
Pin-seeker
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Big fan of Alex Scott.
fundy
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how much do you think Ramsey is gonna earn if he moves on a free? plenty of clubs be happy to pay him top top money if no transfer fee yet arsenal just want to give him away
USER1999
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Indeed, but then his fitness, or lack of is a leveller.
clubchamp98
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Very impressed with Son, ever time I see him he’s scoring , great finish and his movement is excellent.
Arsenal no final ball except once or twice when at this level got to take your chances.
Good game though.
Arsenal no final ball except once or twice when at this level got to take your chances.
Good game though.
Pin-seeker
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£200k?
fundy
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he was happy to sign for that at arsenal reportedly and theyve decided no thanks as need to cut the wage bill (as Ozil is using up most of it lol)
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Solksjaer has got to be THE Maddest appointment ever.
I get loyalty to ex players etc but this appointment smacks of desperation.
Some of those players need to take responsibility aswell.
I get loyalty to ex players etc but this appointment smacks of desperation.
Some of those players need to take responsibility aswell.
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