And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[Deleted member 1740]

Kevin Friend is a disgrace. Only thing close to him tonight was our team and managements reaction to the diabolical penalty decision.

Furious.

Hodgson is on thin ice after that shambolic performance against that lot.

Is he finally being exposed for the fraud he is?

 

[Tashyboy]

Sounds like a typical for City. Battered a team. Not put away chances and held on at the end. Kompany injured again. ☹️ 3 points and al take that

 

[Dan2501]

Yes but without those cogs and wheels Ronald wouldn’t get a kick of the ball.
Goal scorers get all the credit but it’s a team game.

Certain goal scorers deserve all the credit though, goal scorers that score 30+ goals a season at a goal a game or better deserve all the praise that they get and are rightly touted as the best players in the world. Ronaldo scored 44 in 44 last season for Madrid + 8 assists and has added 11 in 18 for Juve. He scored 6 in 7 for Portugal this year, and 11 in 11 last year. Modric is great but Real Madrid aren't anywhere near as good without CR7 leading them from the front, only need to look at their results this season to see that clearly.

Then you've got Messi who scored 41 in 45 for Barcelona with 20 assists. 4 goals and 3 assists in 5 games for Argentina. Top scorer in La Liga, top scorer in Europe, for the 17/18 season he lead statistics for assists, free-kick goals, chances created, key passes, successful dribbles, shots hitting the post and he was MOTM in 6 out of 8 Champions League games - the most of anyone in the competition. The argument against giving Messi and Ronaldo the award is that other players contribute in other ways, well Messi has been the best in the world in not only goals scored, but also goals created for team-mates and chances created for team-mates. The only thing missing was a trophy, but he can't win a trophy on his own. Messi was the player of the year for me.

 

[pokerjoke]

Sounds like a typical for City. Battered a team. Not put away chances and held on at the end. Kompany injured again. ☹️ 3 points and al take that

Yes we will take that.
Come on City.

 

[Fade and Die]

Nice back to back wins.. 3 scored in each

Downside is Arnautovic going off injuried but hopefully these 2 goals for perez will kick start his West Ham career

Shame about late conceding but clear foul on fabianski .. doesn’t matter in grand scheme

Satisfied with the result, bit wobbly 2nd half of the 1st half but turned it on in the 2nd.
One downside for me was Andy Carol got 30 minutes and I was a bit embarrassed for him! I think the team has moved on massively since he last played, the whole of the midfield and front line are looking for quick clever passes to feet with plenty of movement and he’s stood in the middle waiting for the big cross!
Apart from at corners he was anonymous. Can’t see how he can fit into Pelle’s team.

 

[PJ87]

Satisfied with the result, bit wobbly 2nd half of the 1st half but turned it on in the 2nd.
One downside for me was Andy Carol got 30 minutes and I was a bit embarrassed for him! I think the team has moved on massively since he last played, the whole of the midfield and front line are looking for quick clever passes to feet with plenty of movement and he’s stood in the middle waiting for the big cross!
Apart from at corners he was anonymous. Can’t see how he can fit into Pelle’s team.

I think it’s best for everyone if we just fail to renew his contract

Someone will take a punt on him for sure but we can’t justify wasting that wage per week ..

Bad enough Wilshere seems to be injured again

 

[Fade and Die]

I think it’s best for everyone if we just fail to renew his contract

Someone will take a punt on him for sure but we can’t justify wasting that wage per week ..

Bad enough Wilshere seems to be injured again

Agreed, especially if we are not playing the type of football he needs.

Didn’t know Wheelchair was injured again! He must be made of glass!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Agreed, especially if we are not playing the type of football he needs.

Didn’t know Wheelchair was injured again! He must be made of glass!

Did you not sign him to keep Andy company in the treatment room?

Does Carroll have long left on his contract or does it run out at the end of this season? You can't see anyone taking a punt on him with the wages he is on, it just would not make sense. Some would take him on a pay and play basis but no other.

PJ87 should be feeling pretty pleased. After a few games the doom mongers were circling but he looked at the fixtures logically and was confident in the team and manager. They are doing okay now, finding their level and growing. West Ham should be a solid mid table this year, comfortable.

 

[Tashyboy]

Certain goal scorers deserve all the credit though, goal scorers that score 30+ goals a season at a goal a game or better deserve all the praise that they get and are rightly touted as the best players in the world. Ronaldo scored 44 in 44 last season for Madrid + 8 assists and has added 11 in 18 for Juve. He scored 6 in 7 for Portugal this year, and 11 in 11 last year. Modric is great but Real Madrid aren't anywhere near as good without CR7 leading them from the front, only need to look at their results this season to see that clearly.

Then you've got Messi who scored 41 in 45 for Barcelona with 20 assists. 4 goals and 3 assists in 5 games for Argentina. Top scorer in La Liga, top scorer in Europe, for the 17/18 season he lead statistics for assists, free-kick goals, chances created, key passes, successful dribbles, shots hitting the post and he was MOTM in 6 out of 8 Champions League games - the most of anyone in the competition. The argument against giving Messi and Ronaldo the award is that other players contribute in other ways, well Messi has been the best in the world in not only goals scored, but also goals created for team-mates and chances created for team-mates. The only thing missing was a trophy, but he can't win a trophy on his own. Messi was the player of the year for me.

Yet did he come 5th 😳 Think his manager is a bit bogged off.

 

[Tashyboy]

Satisfied with the result, bit wobbly 2nd half of the 1st half but turned it on in the 2nd.
One downside for me was Andy Carol got 30 minutes and I was a bit embarrassed for him! I think the team has moved on massively since he last played, the whole of the midfield and front line are looking for quick clever passes to feet with plenty of movement and he’s stood in the middle waiting for the big cross!
Apart from at corners he was anonymous. Can’t see how he can fit into Pelle’s team.

To be honest about Andy Carrol, I would keep him, at least til the end of his contract. Looking at him reminds me of Edin Dzecko, he was a good plan B for City.

 

[PJ87]

Did you not sign him to keep Andy company in the treatment room?

Does Carroll have long left on his contract or does it run out at the end of this season? You can't see anyone taking a punt on him with the wages he is on, it just would not make sense. Some would take him on a pay and play basis but no other.

PJ87 should be feeling pretty pleased. After a few games the doom mongers were circling but he looked at the fixtures logically and was confident in the team and manager. They are doing okay now, finding their level and growing. West Ham should be a solid mid table this year, comfortable.

It ends at end of this season I believe the club can extend it by 2 years if they want (would be a terrible move lol)

I’m delighted but not surprised

I never rated bilic. I thought he got lucky that the club signed payet and lanzini (not his signings) and he reaped massive benefit from it. Payet arguably one of the best players in the league that season. However there was a reason payet hadn’t been signed by an English club before his time with us. Behaviour problems which surfaced in season 2 and he left. Bilic got found out being defensively inept (ironic considering he was a defender) he held onto his job too long really

Moyes was a shrewd appointment . You could see that the team could defend if coached right and the club could get who they wanted in.

MP is a brilliant manager and he got in the players he wanted. He turned down Alfie Mawson in favour of Balbuena.. who has been a shrewd investment at 4 million. Using the savings from that to bring in Anderson who is starting to show what he is about.

His tactics and influence is starting to bed in.. next season I see more signings to replace the full backs and some central midfielders

We are playing well though. First back to back victories since jan 2017 and have palace at home at the weekend. Chance to get 3 wins on the bounce. Especially how they played yesterday. However there are no easy games at this level

 

[Fade and Die]

It ends at end of this season I believe the club can extend it by 2 years if they want (would be a terrible move lol)

I’m delighted but not surprised

I never rated bilic. I thought he got lucky that the club signed payet and lanzini (not his signings) and he reaped massive benefit from it. Payet arguably one of the best players in the league that season. However there was a reason payet hadn’t been signed by an English club before his time with us. Behaviour problems which surfaced in season 2 and he left. Bilic got found out being defensively inept (ironic considering he was a defender) he held onto his job too long really

Moyes was a shrewd appointment . You could see that the team could defend if coached right and the club could get who they wanted in.

MP is a brilliant manager and he got in the players he wanted. He turned down Alfie Mawson in favour of Balbuena.. who has been a shrewd investment at 4 million. Using the savings from that to bring in Anderson who is starting to show what he is about.

His tactics and influence is starting to bed in.. next season I see more signings to replace the full backs and some central midfielders

We are playing well though. First back to back victories since jan 2017 and have palace at home at the weekend. Chance to get 3 wins on the bounce. Especially how they played yesterday. However there are no easy games at this level

That’s pretty much it in a nutshell. 👍

In Pelle we trust.😁

Do you go to games Paul?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

PJ Really good post until the last sentence. Straight from the Sky cliche handbook . Ha ha, I'm pleased for you though. West Ham have deserved better over recent years, although your owners and Brady still appall me. You don't choose your owners though.

 

[PJ87]

That’s pretty much it in a nutshell. 👍

In Pelle we trust.😁

Do you go to games Paul?

Not anymore, I had a season ticket from the 2002/2003 season so saw us go down, 2 seasons in the champ then our return with the fa cup final. Went to the first play off final. The got a season ticket again when we were in the champ a few seasons ago under BFS and went Wembley to see RVT score the winner. However I gave up my season ticket when we went up. Just don’t get the time anymore

 

[PJ87]

PJ Really good post until the last sentence. Straight from the Sky cliche handbook . Ha ha, I'm pleased for you though. West Ham have deserved better over recent years, although your owners and Brady still appall me. You don't choose your owners though.

Our owners are disgusting but like you say you can’t pick them! Although gold seems ok.. just Brady and Sullivan seem the nasty pieces of work

Your right it is cliche lol but can’t say we should win that would be disrespectful to palace!

 

[Orikoru]

Certain goal scorers deserve all the credit though, goal scorers that score 30+ goals a season at a goal a game or better deserve all the praise that they get and are rightly touted as the best players in the world. Ronaldo scored 44 in 44 last season for Madrid + 8 assists and has added 11 in 18 for Juve. He scored 6 in 7 for Portugal this year, and 11 in 11 last year. Modric is great but Real Madrid aren't anywhere near as good without CR7 leading them from the front, only need to look at their results this season to see that clearly.

Then you've got Messi who scored 41 in 45 for Barcelona with 20 assists. 4 goals and 3 assists in 5 games for Argentina. Top scorer in La Liga, top scorer in Europe, for the 17/18 season he lead statistics for assists, free-kick goals, chances created, key passes, successful dribbles, shots hitting the post and he was MOTM in 6 out of 8 Champions League games - the most of anyone in the competition. The argument against giving Messi and Ronaldo the award is that other players contribute in other ways, well Messi has been the best in the world in not only goals scored, but also goals created for team-mates and chances created for team-mates. The only thing missing was a trophy, but he can't win a trophy on his own. Messi was the player of the year for me.

Victims of their own success. They've been so good for so long that people are starting to forget that scoring a goal a game is ridiculous schoolboy stuff. Before they came along, a goal every two games was considered a good ratio, and 2 in 3 was exceptional.

 

[clubchamp98]

Certain goal scorers deserve all the credit though, goal scorers that score 30+ goals a season at a goal a game or better deserve all the praise that they get and are rightly touted as the best players in the world. Ronaldo scored 44 in 44 last season for Madrid + 8 assists and has added 11 in 18 for Juve. He scored 6 in 7 for Portugal this year, and 11 in 11 last year. Modric is great but Real Madrid aren't anywhere near as good without CR7 leading them from the front, only need to look at their results this season to see that clearly.

Then you've got Messi who scored 41 in 45 for Barcelona with 20 assists. 4 goals and 3 assists in 5 games for Argentina. Top scorer in La Liga, top scorer in Europe, for the 17/18 season he lead statistics for assists, free-kick goals, chances created, key passes, successful dribbles, shots hitting the post and he was MOTM in 6 out of 8 Champions League games - the most of anyone in the competition. The argument against giving Messi and Ronaldo the award is that other players contribute in other ways, well Messi has been the best in the world in not only goals scored, but also goals created for team-mates and chances created for team-mates. The only thing missing was a trophy, but he can't win a trophy on his own. Messi was the player of the year for me.

Can’t argue with your stats but I am just saying they don’t get there on their own!
It’s a matter of opinion.
Look at the points De Gea saved United last year without him they would be down lower mid table!

 

[TheDiablo]

Certain goal scorers deserve all the credit though, goal scorers that score 30+ goals a season at a goal a game or better deserve all the praise that they get and are rightly touted as the best players in the world. Ronaldo scored 44 in 44 last season for Madrid + 8 assists and has added 11 in 18 for Juve. He scored 6 in 7 for Portugal this year, and 11 in 11 last year. Modric is great but Real Madrid aren't anywhere near as good without CR7 leading them from the front, only need to look at their results this season to see that clearly.

Then you've got Messi who scored 41 in 45 for Barcelona with 20 assists. 4 goals and 3 assists in 5 games for Argentina. Top scorer in La Liga, top scorer in Europe, for the 17/18 season he lead statistics for assists, free-kick goals, chances created, key passes, successful dribbles, shots hitting the post and he was MOTM in 6 out of 8 Champions League games - the most of anyone in the competition. The argument against giving Messi and Ronaldo the award is that other players contribute in other ways, well Messi has been the best in the world in not only goals scored, but also goals created for team-mates and chances created for team-mates. The only thing missing was a trophy, but he can't win a trophy on his own. Messi was the player of the year for me.

You can throw stats around all you like but you can't compare them across positions. In the games that mattered, career defining matches that will be remembered in the history books neither Messi nor Ronaldo stepped up regularly enough in 2018, certainly not by their own stratospheric standards. Modric on the other hand ran the CL final and had an incredible WC, winning the Golden Ball (with nearly all in agreement unlike 2014) playing for a somewhat unheralded nation. Would have been a travesty if it was given elsewhere imo.

 

[Liverbirdie]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...-transfer-clauses-impacted-liverpool-15507057

Maybe Arsene was a better accountant than a football manager.

 

[Orikoru]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...-transfer-clauses-impacted-liverpool-15507057

Maybe Arsene was a better accountant than a football manager.

Heard about that. Apparently Southampton argued that stoppage time should count, and they won so Arsenal had to pay out anyway since that took it over 20 mins each time.