And, we’re off.......2018/2019

[richart]

Another trip to Old Trafford. Hopefully game will not be at a silly o’clock like last time.

Hope we play a decent team, as I don’t want to go up north to watch the reserves.

Oh and for Tashy’s information I am a Reading supporter and not a Utd one living in the south.

 

[Papas1982]

Not really a definitive line though is it - very hard to judge what can incite crowd problems. A basic player celebration can do that

If the rule is a manager can’t go onto the pitch during the game then it doesn’t matter if it’s ten yards to hug a player or if it’s 40 years - both should be treated the same way

I know it’s not clear. Unfortunately, not everything can be black and white like in golf. Some interpretation is required. I would say though, that a last minute winner in a derby is going to be about as obvious a place for high emotions as you’re gonna get.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see fa say that after Pep they said all mangers couldn’t go on pitch, therefor pep got a free lass and the rest from then on had to know better.

 

[garyinderry]

A few yards over the line is flouting the rules. Klopp took the piss in this instance.

It was disrespectful as the game wasn't over.

 

[clubchamp98]

I know it’s not clear. Unfortunately, not everything can be black and white like in golf. Some interpretation is required. I would say though, that a last minute winner in a derby is going to be about as obvious a place for high emotions as you’re gonna get.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see fa say that after Pep they said all mangers couldn’t go on pitch, therefor pep got a free lass and the rest from then on had to know better.

There is a rule though managers are not to leave their technical area !

Pep and Klopp did this it dosnt say how far you can go just “ you can’t leave it”
Pep has been warned about wearing political symbols.
But He’s getting away with it.

 

[Pin-seeker]

A few yards over the line is flouting the rules. Klopp took the piss in this instance.

It was disrespectful as the game wasn't over.

But Klopp shouts BOOM a lot.

What a character.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I know it’s not clear. Unfortunately, not everything can be black and white like in golf. Some interpretation is required. I would say though, that a last minute winner in a derby is going to be about as obvious a place for high emotions as you’re gonna get.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see fa say that after Pep they said all mangers couldn’t go on pitch, therefor pep got a free lass and the rest from then on had to know better.

If there is a rule that the manager can not enter the field of play during the game then that’s the line - Pep ran to his nearest player to celebrate , Klopp ran to his nearest player to celebrate - for Klopp is all looked very dramatic etc but it’s no different to what Pep did regardless of the opposition - you can’t use who the team is against to determine if it’s chargable etc

The FA set a precedent with Pep - will they finally follow that for the next manager


It’s still great to see all this though 😀

https://twitter.com/x/status/1069682389784387584

 

[Papas1982]

If there is a rule that the manager can not enter the field of play during the game then that’s the line - Pep ran to his nearest player to celebrate , Klopp ran to his nearest player to celebrate - for Klopp is all looked very dramatic etc but it’s no different to what Pep did regardless of the opposition - you can’t use who the team is against to determine if it’s chargable etc

The FA set a precedent with Pep - will they finally follow that for the next manager


It’s still great to see all this though 😀

https://twitter.com/x/status/1069682389784387584

Or maybe there wasn’t a rule in place. So Pep officially didn’t break one. Will be interesting to see the official charge. If it’s for entering pitch, I agree opponents are irrelevant, if it’s for inciting the crowd the. The opponents clearly matter.

 

[huds1475]

Times running an article today stating Citeh are looking set for a Champions League ban as a reward for their 'financial creativity.'

Cites Galatasaray & AC Milan as precedents. And that
their previous indiscretion is likely to undermine any potential legal challenge from Abu Dhabi's finest lawyers.

If that comes true then no CL football in Manchester next year

Will probably end up with a £50 fine!

 

[clubchamp98]

Klopp accepted the charge and has been fined £8000.
Couple of hours pay.
If the FA want to stamp this out they need to grow some and tell all managers next time we deduct points .
But we all know they won’t!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Klopp accepted the charge and has been fined £8000.
Couple of hours pay.
If the FA want to stamp this out they need to grow some and tell all managers next time we deduct points .
But we all know they won’t!

Are you serious ? Behave yourself - nothing like overkill

They aren’t going to deduct points for someone over celebrating for goodness sake

 

[Deleted member 1740]

A £8000 fine is like us paying £2 to go over the runcorn bridge.

The FA have made themselves look stupid once again IMO.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Are you serious ? Behave yourself - nothing like overkill

They aren’t going to deduct points for someone over celebrating for goodness sake

😁😁

 

[clubchamp98]

Are you serious ? Behave yourself - nothing like overkill

They aren’t going to deduct points for someone over celebrating for goodness sake

I know that!
But it would be fun watching the managers.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

A few yards over the line is flouting the rules. Klopp took the piss in this instance.

It was disrespectful as the game wasn't over.

It wouldve been had Everton not wasted time rolling round the floor and holding subs back 😁

 

[Lord Tyrion]

How about if over celebrating turns into inciting a crowd? It didn't happen this time but it could do with the next manager who does this. Forget it is Klopp, it could be anyone (except Roy because I can't see Roy doing this)

£8k to a PL manager is nothing. The warning for future behaviour is nothing, they collect warnings for fun.

The better step would be to ban the manager not just from the touchline but from the ground on matchday as per UEFA rules. That may make them think.

This will have no impact, no deterrent.

 

[clubchamp98]

Or maybe there wasn’t a rule in place. So Pep officially didn’t break one. Will be interesting to see the official charge. If it’s for entering pitch, I agree opponents are irrelevant, if it’s for inciting the crowd the. The opponents clearly matter.

The technical area is so the Lino can see down the line unimpeded.
The managers know the score but £8000 isn’t even a slap on the wrist it’s pathetic.
But they set a precedent not treating Pep harsher it’s very poor.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

How about if over celebrating turns into inciting a crowd? It didn't happen this time but it could do with the next manager who does this. Forget it is Klopp, it could be anyone (except Roy because I can't see Roy doing this)

£8k to a PL manager is nothing. The warning for future behaviour is nothing, they collect warnings for fun.

The better step would be to ban the manager not just from the touchline but from the ground on matchday as per UEFA rules. That may make them think.

This will have no impact, no deterrent.

If a manager running onto a pitch incites a crowd that much then i suggest the ones who are incited by it take up watching county cricket.

The atmosphere in the ground prior to the goal was a very tense one, armchair fans wouldnt understand that feeling, it was a massive goal and emotions were very high. A reminder of his responsibiliies shouldve been sufficient.

 

[Slime]

Times running an article today stating Citeh are looking set for a Champions League ban as a reward for their 'financial creativity.'

Cites Galatasaray & AC Milan as precedents. And that
their previous indiscretion is likely to undermine any potential legal challenge from Abu Dhabi's finest lawyers.

If that comes true then no CL football in Manchester next year

Will probably end up with a £50 fine!

Ooh, maybe, if City do get banned, the fifth spot would secure qualification.
Finally, United have an outside chance!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If a manager running onto a pitch incites a crowd that much then i suggest the ones who are incited by it take up watching county cricket.

The atmosphere in the ground prior to the goal was a very tense one, armchair fans wouldnt understand that feeling, it was a massive goal and emotions were very high. A reminder of his responsibiliies shouldve been sufficient.

You know your football history well enough to know that too many people get incited by what happens on a football pitch. Managers, even more than players, have a responsibility to be professional. If they fail in that there should be a consequence that deters them in future. This doesn't.

A reminder of responsibilities does jack diddly. Certain managers get repeatedly reminded of their responsibilities and take no notice. How many warnings has Klopp got now? Mourinho must be in double figures for warnings, they are meaningless.

'Armchair fans wouldn't understand that feeling' - nice jibe, come on that is poor.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Ooh, maybe, if City do get banned, the fifth spot would secure qualification.
Finally, United have an outside chance!

Only if 2 others also get banned