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On another note, I'm not sure I agree with Modric winning the Ballon D'or. As great as he is, and he is superb, I'm not convinced he did enough to outdo Messi or Ronaldo. Messi had another superb year, the numbers he put up across the board are exceptional, particularly in Europe. I'd have given it to Leo this year.

Modric put in one of the best CM performances in a major final during the CL (along with Kroos) and then was a huge part in hauling a massive underdog to the World Cup final.

I'd add 100x weight to the above then another Messi/Ronaldo hattrick against the likes of PSV in the group stages or Vallecano in the league, playing in teams where everything is set up for them.
 

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Modric put in one of the best CM performances in a major final during the CL (along with Kroos) and then was a huge part in hauling a massive underdog to the World Cup final.

I'd add 100x weight to the above then another Messi/Ronaldo hattrick against the likes of PSV in the group stages or Vallecano in the league, playing in teams where everything is set up for them.

I think he was superb in the World Cup. Was he as important for Madrid for the entire season as Ronaldo? All those hat tricks against rubbish teams are the base for a good season. I’ve no issue him winning it, but I don’t think playing well in a few big games should counter someone being superb in 40 games a season either.
 
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If a manager running onto a pitch incites a crowd that much then i suggest the ones who are incited by it take up watching county cricket.

The atmosphere in the ground prior to the goal was a very tense one, armchair fans wouldnt understand that feeling, it was a massive goal and emotions were very high. A reminder of his responsibiliies shouldve been sufficient.

Sorry but if a manager celebrating on the pitch with his players incites fans to violence then those fans shouldn’t be near a football stadium or indeed any sporting arena - it’s a sport and someone celebrates . Too many idiots looking for an excuse to kick off these days
 

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Sorry but if a manager celebrating on the pitch with his players incites fans to violence then those fans shouldn’t be near a football stadium or indeed any sporting arena - it’s a sport and someone celebrates . Too many idiots looking for an excuse to kick off these days

But they are and they generally look like the rest of the spectators.
 

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I think he was superb in the World Cup. Was he as important for Madrid for the entire season as Ronaldo? All those hat tricks against rubbish teams are the base for a good season. I’ve no issue him winning it, but I don’t think playing well in a few big games should counter someone being superb in 40 games a season either.

Not for me, will have to disagree.

IMO the Best player in the world in a given year should be the one who has the biggest impact on the biggest occasions that year. This season it was comfortably Modric, not the most 'talented' players who had very good seasons playing in world class teams but didn't show up in the biggest games.
 
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Do you guys genuinely think that Ronaldo and Messi were in the top 3 players last year?

To me it feels like a lazy vote option, it's almost a given that they will feature and for me it's not warranted.

I think that proper cases could be made for other players.
 

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Not for me, will have to disagree.

IMO the Best player in the world in a given year should be the one who has the biggest impact on the biggest occasions that year. This season it was comfortably Modric, not the most 'talented' players who had very good seasons playing in world class teams but didn't show up in the biggest games.

I can see the merit in that, genuinely can and am happy someone else got a shot. Tbf Modric does play in a world class team too.....
 

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Do you guys genuinely think that Ronaldo and Messi were in the top 3 players last year?

To me it feels like a lazy vote option, it's almost a given that they will feature and for me it's not warranted.

I think that proper cases could be made for other players.
Name the others......
 

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Sorry but if a manager celebrating on the pitch with his players incites fans to violence then those fans shouldn’t be near a football stadium or indeed any sporting arena - it’s a sport and someone celebrates . Too many idiots looking for an excuse to kick off these days

Agreed, where do you stand though on a player celebrating right in front of opposition fans he has just scored against?
And to answer Stu we don't want any knobs like that at the cricket thank you very much!
 

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Do you guys genuinely think that Ronaldo and Messi were in the top 3 players last year?

To me it feels like a lazy vote option, it's almost a given that they will feature and for me it's not warranted.

I think that proper cases could be made for other players.

Lets face it, the two Spanish top dogs have always and will always dominate this.

For an English player or playing at an English club to win it, they have to be head and shoulders above barca/Real players.
 

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Do you guys genuinely think that Ronaldo and Messi were in the top 3 players last year?

To me it feels like a lazy vote option, it's almost a given that they will feature and for me it's not warranted.

I think that proper cases could be made for other players.

Yes. Ronaldo was continually outstanding all year and has carried that form into a new team. Modric was really nothing extreme in the World Cup and he’s merely a cog in the wheel at Real whereas Ronaldo was the killer.
 

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Yes. Ronaldo was continually outstanding all year and has carried that form into a new team. Modric was really nothing extreme in the World Cup and he’s merely a cog in the wheel at Real whereas Ronaldo was the killer.
Yes but without those cogs and wheels Ronald wouldn’t get a kick of the ball.
Goal scorers get all the credit but it’s a team game.
 

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Another trip to Old Trafford. Hopefully game will not be at a silly o’clock like last time.

Hope we play a decent team, as I don’t want to go up north to watch the reserves.

Oh and for Tashy’s information I am a Reading supporter and not a Utd one living in the south.:p

Perish the thought Richie me man. Your to liberal minded to be a Utd fan.
 

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Do you guys genuinely think that Ronaldo and Messi were in the top 3 players last year?

To me it feels like a lazy vote option, it's almost a given that they will feature and for me it's not warranted.

I think that proper cases could be made for other players.
I did think the same when Pogba was rated so high as well, he had a good World Cup but has been pants at Utd for most of this year. So are we voting on players that played well in the World Cup, or what.
 

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Nice back to back wins.. 3 scored in each

Downside is Arnautovic going off injuried but hopefully these 2 goals for perez will kick start his West Ham career

Shame about late conceding but clear foul on fabianski .. doesn’t matter in grand scheme
 
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