Advice rule

[Deleted member 15344]

Ah the old “take your time” argument - strictly speaking it’s giving “advice” but anyone who ever pulls someone up on it needs to have a serious word with themselves but we have seen there are people who are rules fans first.

I just say no -“no rush” when they ask if it’s ok to putt out

I think some need to also understand most of us also like to see our playing partners do well as well

 

[KenL]

Telling someone to "take your time" or "no rush" won't help them, and if it did it is advice, it might even put them off. Best to say nothing.

 

[Kellfire]

It’s clearly advice and should be treated as such.

 

[SteveJay]

As I stated 5 hours ago, it’s just politeness, no more, no less. Rather nicer than saying ‘Of course, hurry up” .

But actually, some on here seem to think that saying "hurry up" constitutes advice as well!! Obviously some people prefer to play a round of golf and never say anything to each other, in case it could be deemed advice. Life is too short to take the game that seriously!!

 

[Kellfire]

But actually, some on here seem to think that saying "hurry up" constitutes advice as well!! Obviously some people prefer to play a round of golf and never say anything to each other, in case it could be deemed advice. Life is too short to take the game that seriously!!

That last sentence might as well say “Life is too short to play by the rules of golf I don’t agree with”.

There are a few of the rules I don’t agree with but I abide by them out of respect for the rest of the field.

 

[badgergm]

In most scenarios it is advice, but I doubt it has ever actually been called out as such.
i sometimes say ‘there’s no hurry’, which i think I can argue is just a statement of fact.

 

[BubbaP]

On a related point, I thought that (in strokeplay) if you have putted it is your right to continue until you chose to mark and step away. Is that correct?

 

[badgergm]

On a related point, I thought that (in strokeplay) if you have putted it is your right to continue until you chose to mark and step away. Is that correct?

It is, yes. But the most common scenario here is where someone has missed a shortish putt, has a vaguely missable putt left, is raging and is foolishly continuing, probably with a contorted stance to avoid standing on someone’s line.

 

[KenL]

On a related point, I thought that (in strokeplay) if you have putted it is your right to continue until you chose to mark and step away. Is that correct?

Yes.

 

[KenL]

In most scenarios it is advice, but I doubt it has ever actually been called out as such.
i sometimes say ‘there’s no hurry’, which i think I can argue is just a statement of fact.

Better than "take your time", but no need for it.

 

[rulefan]

On a related point, I thought that (in strokeplay) if you have putted it is your right to continue until you chose to mark and step away. Is that correct?

It is not a right but is encouraged.
Rule 6.4b(2)

 

[tobybarker]

The suggestion from some of the replies here is that some of you would actually call foul if someone said take your time..... Surely you wouldn't, tell me it isn't so....

 

[rulie]

The suggestion from some of the replies here is that some of you would actually call foul if someone said take your time..... Surely you wouldn't, tell me it isn't so....

It all depends on your intention by saying it. Why did you say that?
See the definition of advice above.

 

[jim8flog]

On a related point, I thought that (in strokeplay) if you have putted it is your right to continue until you chose to mark and step away. Is that correct?

The actual wording in the rules

 In stroke play, there is no penalty for playing out of turn, and players are both allowed and encouraged to play “ready golf” – that is, to play out of turn in a safe and responsible way.

It is your right if someone asks you to mark it (rule 15.3a)

 

[shagster]

It’s clearly advice and should be treated as such.

totally disagree
giving advice is telling someone what to hit or how to hit or which club
telling someone to take their time is referring that you are not in rush to take your shot, a bit like telling someone there is a stream over a brow of a hill

 

[Smiffy]

You can give your partner advice at any time

Yep. Remember when I told you to take your time over that 4th putt at Blackmoor.
You didn't listen though did you????
Not that it still bugs me 3 years on.....

 

[Colin L]

totally disagree
giving advice is telling someone what to hit or how to hit or which club
telling someone to take their time is referring that you are not in rush to take your shot, a bit like telling someone there is a stream over a brow of a hill

You've overlooked the last bit of the Definition of advice.

Advice
Any verbal comment or action (such as showing what club was just used to make a stroke) that is intended to influence a player in:

• Choosing a club,
• Making a stroke, or
• Deciding how to play during a hole or round.

.

 

[chrisd]

Yep. Remember when I told you to take your time over that 4th putt at Blackmoor.
You didn't listen though did you????
Not that it still bugs me 3 years on.....

The rules allow you to give advice to a playing partner- there is nothing to say they have to listen

???????

 

[salfordlad]

This is one of those issues that can get folks excited about whether a rule has been broken - and the 38 posts above have a range of contradictory views - although I doubt there has EVER been a Committee that has enforced a penalty for someone saying "take your time". But the rules, IMO, are very clear - if the statement is intended to influence how someone goes about a stroke, then it is a breach of the advice rule. But simply hearing that someone has said that is not, of itself, sufficient to enforce a penalty.

This contrasts a bit with the other really problematic "advice" issue - the question "where is the wind coming from?". 1.3c(4)/3 suggests this is advice.

 

[backwoodsman]

You've overlooked the last bit of the Definition of advice.

Advice
Any verbal comment or action (such as showing what club was just used to make a stroke) that is intended to influence a player in:

• Choosing a club,
• Making a stroke, or
• Deciding how to play during a hole or round.

.

I suppose one could argue that "take your time" is not a comment intended to influence a player in deciding how to play, but in deciding when to play? Which is, I suspect, not against the rules?