Bamberdele2.0
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Had a few putts recently where I’ve been denied and always thought it would have dropped if I had taken the flag out?
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Others have scientifically determined the same and others differently.Someone scientific* did some proper research recently and determined flag out was best 99% of the time.
*not Bryson
Someone scientific* did some proper research recently and determined flag out was best 99% of the time.
*not Bryson
Not again !!!!
But just to note, the USGA winner chose to leave it in.
I dont think I buy into 1 way is better than the other in terms of likliness to drop, but I personally prefer to take it out.
Enter 'flag' in the search and select 'search titles only'I did try and search threads on this but didn’t find any!
People just lack common sense. Yesterday Player A had putted with the flag out, Player B asked me who was nearer, I think it was me fractionally but I told him to go first because I'd be wanting the flag back in for mine (it was downhill - otherwise I'd have not bothered like you). So he putts out, flag goes back in, I putt out and away we go. No flag hokey cokey required if people are sensible about it.Personally I leave it in. The number of putts I have seen bounce away in the time this was brought in has been minimal. In each case the ball was either hit too hard from close in, may not have dropped without the flag in anyway, or the pin was thick and the putt was hit firmly from relatively close. I will check the thickness of the pin and as long as it is not a chunky pin I leave it in.
I have noticed this year a clear move back to people removing the pin. It's slightly annoying after 2yrs plus of leaving it in and it undoubtedly does slow things a little. If they ask though..............and no, I don't do in out, in out etc. Once out I don't care enough to have it put back in.
This was a somewhat misleading headline. The real conclusion was that only 1% of the time would leaving the flagstick in result in holing a putt that would otherwise have stayed out.Someone scientific* did some proper research recently and determined flag out was best 99% of the time.
*not Bryson
I remember seeing this, and others that said similar. If that's true, isn't it amazing that barely 5% of pros seem to leave it in??https://mygolfspy.com/flagstick-in-flagstick-out-2019-new-golf-rules/
according to this, it is always better to leave the flag in, by quite a considerable amount
Pavlov's dog. They are so used it being out.I remember seeing this, and others that said similar. If that's true, isn't it amazing that barely 5% of pros seem to leave it in??
Potentially over the next 5 years or so, maybe we'll see more younger players coming through and leaving the flag in then?Pavlov's dog. They are so used it being out.
I'm not sure. If a caddy is lifting it out it doesn't affect the player, it just becomes the done thing. Also, they don't care about pace of play do they? It's glacial and they seem to accept that.Potentially over the next 5 years or so, maybe we'll see more younger players coming through and leaving the flag in then?