6-9 irons

freddielong said:
That's totally up to you, I have given my opinion and for so reason people don't like
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I think the reason is because it comes over (I am aware it's just your opinion) as very judgemental and people do not like to feel judged even though we all do it.

Question. Your playing a match, your giving 5 or 6 shots to your opponent and he has a bag full of hybrids and loads of wedges. On his approach shots he lasers the pin, picks a club and plays a full shot. At the end of the round he or she beats you.

Do you tell yourself that you gave shots away and you used blades so really you won? Perhaps do you even tell your competitor that?
 
bobmac said:
When I started playing golf, a set of irons were 3-SW
Nowadays, with people buying more hybrids and specialist wedges, is it likely manufacturers will end up selling just 4 irons in a set (6-9)?

I know people will buy whatever clubs makes golf easier and they haven't got time to practice so why bother.......just fill your bag full of hybrids and wedges and bingo, I'm your uncle.
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No manufacturers will never sell 4 clubs as a set.
Why didn't you just set up a poll that would have give you your answer.
As i'm sure your fully aware as your a forum stalwart 99% of threads end up as arguments with snipes in them.
 
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sev112 said:
Average handicaps don't reduce because there is alwAys a stream if new people coming into the game at 28, and high number always skew averages, so the average never drops
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OK taking handicaps out of it, were the players from 30 years ago more skillful ? Seeing how some 70+ age wise players play the game I'd say yes. The way they can get score without being long off the tee is very commendable with very hot short games.

Alex1975 said:
Is it not the case that as technology has come into the game (largely the ball) the courses have become longer? Net gain to the players handicaps being little to non?
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Don't know , is your home course 400+ yards longer? No idea for mine as only been there 3 years and been playing 16. I'd hazard a gues that most of members here are playing on courses that haven't been lengthened by much because when I play away the fairway bunkers seem to be not so intimidating as i can carry them , well some of them :D
 
No, manufacturers won't sell just 4 irons in a set . I've been playing off and on since 1969 when I was 10 and if the manufacturers thought it was viable to sell just four irons, they would have done so by now.
 
Clubs have always evolved with golf. There were no rules about the makeup of clubs prior to the 20th Century and the 14 club limit was introduced "only" about the 1930's because of some argy bargy about the time hickory started dying out.

Embrace the evolution, it's part of the game and always has been.
 
freddielong said:
To me it does because they are not learning to play golf properly for me a beginner should start with a half set so they learn to play half shots and full shots, vary the elevation etc none of this one club one shot scuttle it about nonsense.
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What I meant is they are not learning properly not learning the right things rather than not playing properly.
 
freddielong said:
What I meant is they are not learning properly not learning the right things rather than not playing properly.
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I wouldn't listen to the latest GM podcast then as Mike H goes on about how much he likes his Adams hybrids. The lazy cheating so and so....
 
freddielong said:
What I meant is they are not learning properly not learning the right things rather than not playing properly.
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What are the right things to learn ? And indeed what makes them right and indeed properly
 
Almost every popular sport evolves over time. Football is easier than it was, the ball is not leather with a lace, boots are like slippers, pitches are not mud heaps like they were back in the late 50's when I started out - so you could argue it's easier, but, the players are faster, more skilful as a result.

It's a better game for evolution as is golf. Back at the start of the 1990's I couldn't even play golf as there weren't any clubs who didn't have a long waiting list and there was no chance of getting in as a member. I can hit a 3 iron as I'm sure Smiffy will testify, but the same swing with a hybrid will give more consistent results, so I will carry two of them and make the game more enjoyable - why not go back to hickory and blades and see how many golf clubs survive ?
 
freddielong said:
He is paid to say that
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Of course he's not paid to say he likes hybrids. Yes he is paid to have an interest in golf, but he could just have easily have said he can't get on with them and prefers long irons as some do. You seemed to have tipped over into blinkered paranoia now.
 
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