20 years never forget. Always remember

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hambugerpete said:
I'm genuinely interested to know what point you think you've proved?
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I saw the BBC yesterday remarking on 07/07/05 as ‘The day London changed forever’ or something similar….(I can’t remember the exact wording) Do you think such a description is accurate and represents reality?
 
evemccc said:
I saw the BBC yesterday remarking on 07/07/05 as ‘The day London changed forever’ or something similar….(I can’t remember the exact wording) Do you think such a description is accurate and represents reality?
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Through my lifetime there have been many terrorist attacks

Through the 70’s there were multiple IRA terror attacks within the UK that carried through to the 80’s and early 90’s and it affected how the military worked within the UK

The Pan Am flight and Iranian embassy added a new dimension

Then 9/11 happened and Islamic terrorists became the danger and 7/7 was our 9/11 and because of the way the media had changed it seemed to have more of an impact on the country

We have seen multiple incidents since - Lee Rigby , London Bridge

Because London has become more multicultural over the years people going into London and living in London may be more worried about it all compared to the worries of the IRA in the 70’s etc even if the level of attacks are less now
 
Arthur Wedge said:
Through my lifetime there have been many terrorist attacks

Through the 70’s there were multiple IRA terror attacks within the UK that carried through to the 80’s and early 90’s and it affected how the military worked within the UK

The Pan Am flight and Iranian embassy added a new dimension

Then 9/11 happened and Islamic terrorists became the danger and 7/7 was our 9/11 and because of the way the media had changed it seemed to have more of an impact on the country

We have seen multiple incidents since - Lee Rigby , London Bridge

Because London has become more multicultural over the years people going into London and living in London may be more worried about it all compared to the worries of the IRA in the 70’s etc even if the level of attacks are less now
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1) Yes, obviously in the 70s-90s the IRA were the perpetrators of terror attacks and massacres

2) My point is that the BBC’s description was ridiculous — since 7/7/05 was not a day from which things changed (and then got better or improved, from which we as a society all learnt from) as since then there has been an almost consistent level of terror attacks and massacres by Islamic terrorists, every year there’s something

I won’t say more, but as an avid follower of current affairs, bien pensant mainstream BBC/Guardian opinion has been even more entrenched in views which have made London and the country more ‘international’ - with consequences
 
Arthur Wedge said:
Through my lifetime there have been many terrorist attacks

Through the 70’s there were multiple IRA terror attacks within the UK that carried through to the 80’s and early 90’s and it affected how the military worked within the UK

The Pan Am flight and Iranian embassy added a new dimension

Then 9/11 happened and Islamic terrorists became the danger and 7/7 was our 9/11 and because of the way the media had changed it seemed to have more of an impact on the country

We have seen multiple incidents since - Lee Rigby , London Bridge

Because London has become more multicultural over the years people going into London and living in London may be more worried about it all compared to the worries of the IRA in the 70’s etc even if the level of attacks are less now
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I agree with a lot of what you say but I think you are playing down the impact of 7/7 a bit.
It was the first time that suicide bombers had been deployed in the U.K. it was the first coordinated multi location attack on the transport system, and the first jihadi attack in the U.K. specifically targeting multiple innocent civilians. So although the headline “The day London Changed forever” is typical hyperbole by the media it is correct. I think it was the day the U.K. changed really.
 
Fade and Die said:
I agree with a lot of what you say but I think you are playing down the impact of 7/7 a bit.
It was the first time that suicide bombers had been deployed in the U.K. it was the first coordinated multi location attack on the transport system, and the first jihadi attack in the U.K. specifically targeting multiple innocent civilians. So although the headline “The day London Changed forever” is typical hyperbole by the media it is correct. I think it was the day the U.K. changed really.
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What the bombing did highlight is that we weren’t immune to it and that our actions aligning with the US would have its consequences and it did open up eyes a lot more

During the IRA campaigns they targeted military etc and so security around those targets was very tight , everyone in the military felt a target

Security at travel links wasn’t as tight

As you say from 7/7 the target was anyone to cause the most disruption and it has changed the way we interact and travel now
 
evemccc said:
I saw the BBC yesterday remarking on 07/07/05 as ‘The day London changed forever’ or something similar….(I can’t remember the exact wording) Do you think such a description is accurate and represents reality?
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If you can link the the article Id be able to comment on it.
 
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