Zero Torque Putters? Is it hype or a thing?

[Dunesman]

All you doubters can surely tell us the reasons it doesn't work, or is the number of bones in the body the best you can give hahahahaha

Lovingly posted by a luddite.

The torque from a non zero torque putter is too small to have any misaligning effect due to the strength of human hands, wrists, and arms and the forces they exert when swinging a putter. So zt has no practical influence on putter performance.

Not sure I can write more clearly, and the same point has been made before.

 

[Burnsey]

The torque from a non zero torque putter is too small to have any misaligning effect due to the strength of human hands, wrists, and arms and the forces they exert when swinging a putter. So zt has no practical influence on putter performance.

Not sure I can write more clearly, and the same point has been made before.

And the link to this data, or is that Dunesman's opinion versus Burnsey and him being twelve hundred quid deep in ZT putters and saying it 100% does have a practical influence on putter performance?

 

[Orikoru]

It can still make the 'zero torque helps' angle snake oil though. Just because people use them, like them, maybe even putt better with them, does not validate the scientific claim (if one is being made at all. Not sure that one is) that there is a 'technology' to zt and that it benefits anybody's putting at all.

Well you can say that about anything?? Does heel weighting in drivers make you hit it straighter? In my experience it does, but you can brandish it snake oil if you like. Who decides? Most technology in golf will help some people, maybe even a lot of people, but rarely do they ever help everybody. So they're all snake oil I guess. I give up.

 

[hambugerpete]

And the link to this data, or is that Dunesman's opinion versus Burnsey and him being twelve hundred quid deep in ZT putters and saying it 100% does have a practical influence on putter performance?

1200

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I popped into Silvermere last night. Tried the New LAB Oz and the new Bettinardi Antidote. Also tried a Scotty Cameron. All my putts went the same. Didn't feel any difference in the zero torque personally. All three of them felt nice.

However I would class myself as a reasonable putter so feel as long as I have trust in what I am using then the rest could be a placebo

Expensive in there though. Trouble is you go in for a browse and suddenly putting clubs or clothing in the car!

 

[MACM85]

Expensive in there though. Trouble is you go in for a browse and suddenly putting clubs or clothing in the car!

Thankfully I had my Mrs in there. We went to look at the Elevate store they have just opened. Saw some nice Greyson apparel but £120 a polo and £185 a hoodie was a tad too high for my liking

 

[Bunkermagnet]

We best not look at MOI for drivers, putters or any clubs then

 

[Burnsey]

1200

I rounded it down a few hundred

Those scientific links?

 

[hambugerpete]

We best not look at MOI for drivers, putters or any clubs then

That would be silly.

 

[Dunesman]

Well you can say that about anything?? Does heel weighting in drivers make you hit it straighter? In my experience it does, but you can brandish it snake oil if you like. Who decides? Most technology in golf will help some people, maybe even a lot of people, but rarely do they ever help everybody. So they're all snake oil I guess. I give up.

Yes, you can. The physics involved in the heel weighted driver, and its effect on head twist on striking the ball is well understood and measurable. Depending on where the ball strikes the face, and other impact parameters, it can indeed influence the result, and so is beneficial to some. (to the average hacker slicing across the ball, 10deg out to in, with a 5deg open face to path, no. Of course it wont straighten him out to hit a Rory drive draw. But it will have an effect for golfers already working in tight tolerances). So it unquestionable helps some.
That doesnt mean all technologies help some, dont help others. If it isnt really a technology in the first place, then it quite possibly does help literally nobody. Someone saying they putt better with one in no way counters that - it is the opposite of science, and mere anecdote.

 

[hambugerpete]

I rounded it down a few hundred

Those scientific links?

What links? A fool and his money are easy parted link ?
If it works for you , go for it. If I thought it would make a significant difference to me I'd be all in

 

[Dunesman]

We best not look at MOI for drivers, putters or any clubs then

Nobody is saying that at all (you included I guess).

 

[Burnsey]

What links? A fool and his money are easy parted link ?
If it works for you , go for it. If I thought it would make a significant difference to me I'd be all in

If you thought it would make a difference - you said it was impossible.

Anyway, I need to stay away from those I'd laugh at in real life, so have a great day on the internet

 

[hambugerpete]

If you thought it would make a difference - you said it was impossible.

Anyway, I need to stay away from those I'd laugh at in real life, so have a great day on the internet

Confusing me with someone else.

 

[Oddsocks]

All you doubters can surely tell us the reasons it doesn't work, or is the number of bones in the body the best you can give hahahahaha

Lovingly posted by a luddite.

I’m just gonna try one and stop listening to arm chair experts.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Simple question but surely if you aren't a) good with pace control and b) don't find the sweetspot regularly (I know these will/should help) then how much difference can these or any other sort of putter make?

 

[hambugerpete]

Simple question but surely if you aren't a) good with pace control and b) don't find the sweetspot regularly (I know these will/should help) then how much difference can these or any other sort of putter make?

Because they work and thats all you need to know

 

[Burnsey]

Simple question but surely if you aren't a) good with pace control and b) don't find the sweetspot regularly (I know these will/should help) then how much difference can these or any other sort of putter make?

Burger man has an explanation, just doesn’t know how to articulate it.

Or, he’s making it up to be obtuse, probably because they’ve not yet hit sub £25 at GCFC.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Because they work and thats all you need to know

Jog on, clearly a viallage missing an idiot somewhere. I was asking the people that have something sensible to add

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I find it odd still.
Someone wearing a leather glove, holding a rubber grip on a steel (or graphite) pipe that has some flex connected to a lump of metal hitting a plastic/rubber ball can "feel" the difference depending on whether that lump of metal is forged or cast, but a zero torque claim about a putter is snake oil?
I would suggest that some don't like whats said because they don't just like the putter or who is saying it.
If it works for someone and they like it thats good enough for me.