Colin L
Tour Winner
Don't encourage the thought that a player has take up time to hole out when he can't get any points!
Anyway, R32-1b explicitly allows for a no score.
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Don't encourage the thought that a player has take up time to hole out when he can't get any points!
Anyway, R32-1b explicitly allows for a no score.
You can't play practice shots during the playing of a hole. Once the hole is concluded you may, provided this does not unduly delay play and there is not a local competition rule banning practice shots. Most pro stroke play tournaments do have such a rule, which is probably where this myth comes from.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Are you differentiating between strokes made after the player has holed the ball and those played after the player has run out of stableford points but wish to continue until they have holed out?
Colin L
Tour Winner
Del, the question was about the statement in Rule 7 quoted by Crazyface:
Strokes made in continuing the play of a hole, the result of which has been decided, are not practice strokes.
Nothing to do with what goes on between holes.
Hosel Fade
Tour Rookie
Pump 2 balls miles OB off the tee, concede hole. Further strokes are not deemed practice (full shots which normally would not be allowed between holes).
If you have already taken too many shots to score a Stableford point, or your opponent in Matchplay has already won the hole, you have the options of picking up or holing out. These are not practice shots. After you have holed out you can practice chipping and putting on or around the last green played or the next tee. This must not unduly delay delay play and you can't play practice shots from hazards (bunkers). Relevant rule is 7-2.
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Colin L
Tour Winner
:thup:
LincolnShep
Head Pro
Given that it's permitted to finish off the hole even if you can't score (stableford), or can't win (matchplay), which rule prevents you from helping your playing partner by deliberately positioning your ball on or near their line of putt in order to show them the break?
As an example, if Player A's ball is where the green triangle is located, and Player B's ball is by the red star. Could player A deliberately play their ball away from the hole so they can then play another shot along B's line? A and B are playing partners on the same side.
I'm sure this must be against the rules but I don't know which rule.
As an example, if Player A's ball is where the green triangle is located, and Player B's ball is by the red star. Could player A deliberately play their ball away from the hole so they can then play another shot along B's line? A and B are playing partners on the same side.
I'm sure this must be against the rules but I don't know which rule.
You are only allowed to practice chipping and putting between the playing of two holes, not during it. Rule 7-2 again. Basically the hole has to be completed by all players in the group before you are allowed to practice. What you are suggesting is also probably a breach of Rule 8.
rulefan
Tour Winner
In fact it is covered by
[h=2]30-3f/6[/h] [h=4]Player Plays Away from Hole to Assist Partner[/h]Q.In a four-ball competition, a player purposely putts away from the hole to a position slightly farther from the hole than the spot where his partner's ball lies and on the same line to the hole as his partner's ball. The player then putts towards the hole, and the roll of his ball is helpful to his partner in determining how much his putt will break, etc. Is such a procedure permissible?
A.No. Such procedure is contrary to the spirit of the game. In match play, in equity (Rule 1-4), the player is disqualified for the hole and, since his action assisted his partner's play, the partner incurs the same penalty (Rule 30-3f).
In stroke play, in equity (Rule 1-4), the player incurs a penalty of two strokes and, under Rule 31-8, the partner incurs the same penalty.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
...and even if your ball is already in a position to assist there's 2-4/6 👎
LincolnShep
Head Pro
I was talking about completing the hole rather than practising, but it's clear now that what I suggested is banned. Not a surprise - it's not very sporting and a quick way to lose friends as well as increase round times!!
Crazyface
Tour Winner
So what sort of shots are they? This is what is puzzling me about this statement. (rule)
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
What sort of shot would you call any approach shot to a green, or bunker shot, or putt?
The rules define those that have rules associated with them, but don't define "normal shots" played in the normal course of play.
Because of this they occasionally clarify things that might otherwise be misconstrued- in this case stroke made that are basically normal ones made whilst playing a hole but, because of the nature of the competition have no bearing on the result, have been clarified as not constituting practice strokes.
rulefan
Tour Winner
They are simply strokes (as defined) but do not attract any penalties for breaches.
They are shots played in the normal course of play, and not practice shots. For example you cannot within the rules play a practice putt to gauge the break before playing your actual putt. Neither can you roll a ball by hand or scrape the surface to gauge its speed. Once you have completed the hole by holing out or picking up, you may practice chipping and putting on or around the last green played or the next tee, provided you do not unduly delay play and there is not a condition of competition banning such practice.
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backwoodsman
Tour Winner
They are just strokes.
The general object of the game (rule 1.1) is to play the ball from the tee into the hole by making successive strokes - so you take as many as is necessary to get the ball into the hole. But there are some forms of play where, in certain circumstances, (eg you've lost the hole or can't score a point) your strokes stop being relevant to the outcome of that hole. But that doesn't change the general objective of the game. You may still play the ball into the hole.
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