Would you say anything????............

I think the whole moving it with the club head is wrong. First hole and ask the question and reiterate the process and then enforce the rule. Surely the way forward and if a PP (hypothetical scenario - low handicapper who should know better) still doesn't comply he's got no where to go. That said would hate to be put in that situation
 
You introduce yourself on the first tee, and notice that he seems a little "offish".


If he's offish before you even start then i would definitely have questioned his ball moving method AND asked if his grooves were legal and what identifying mark he had on his ball ... I hate it when golfers are offish (especially with strangers)..... just make 'em go home!! :D


I'm a pretty crappy golfer... but one of the happiest :confused::p
 
Sorry that's confused me ?
You asked in an earlier post when we started picking and choosing which rules to apply. As you readily admit you don't know them all, aren't you choosing to only apply the ones that you know?

I don't see any difference but I'm sure you will
 
how would you go on if mats can be used off the fairways,how can you mark exact position move ball on to mat and conform to this rule.
 
A couple of months ago in the medal a Cat 1 player in our group who I know a little picked up a FC's ball by mistake on the green - doesn't matter why , genuine mix up over marked balls etc etc. Anyhow he instantly realised his mistake and replaced the ball on the green. I was sure it was a penalty for him but he seemed very relaxed about it, made no mention of it on his score ( I was not marking his card ) and I bottled it and said nothing. It spoiled my whole round thinking this well-respected player had 'cheated' and I had not piped up about it. I agonized internally for the next 48 hours, consoled myself that he had a poor round anyhow so it made no difference etc. etc. Monday morning explaining what had happened to a work colleague he was pretty sure I was wrong and no penalty was due - only then did I finally look up the rules and see that indeed all was correct and it was me who had been wrong. So all that agonising for nothing at all. If only I'd politely enquired at the time, I'd have been politely corrected then and there and saved myself a lot of self-loathing and anguish.

The lesson for me is there is always a gentle and polite way to handle these situations and it is often in your own interests to address things directly and immediately.

Case in point on Saturday, FC was teed up 2" in front of the markers, I suggested he be careful where he tees the ball, he took a look, said 'thanks', moved the ball back 6" and the whole thing was resolved in less than 5 seconds.

i too would do as above,heard of someone at our club spotted something similar and allowed his competitor to continue and after he hit the ball claimed the match.i would hate to think i would have to stoop so low to win a match like this.
after all isnt this supposed to be a gentlemans/womans game.every days a learning day.
coming back to the op,i would say arnt you supposed to mark the ball before it gets moved?and then let him know i would be asking someone back in the club for the actual ruling.and if he gets DQD thats his problem.
that way the ownus is taken away from me and well and truly put back on the player.
 
You asked in an earlier post when we started picking and choosing which rules to apply. As you readily admit you don't know them all, aren't you choosing to only apply the ones that you know?

I don't see any difference but I'm sure you will

But I'm not ignoring any rules that I know and have attempted to familiarise myself with as many as I possibly can and any situation I find myself in then I make reference to the rule book

There is always a possibility that we could all not know an obscure rule out there but I expect most go through each game playing within the rules

If you want to connect what people including myself do each game to what was said in thread with people stating they would ignore the rule break then away you go - think there is a clear difference between the two scenarios
 
But I'm not ignoring any rules that I know and have attempted to familiarise myself with as many as I possibly can and any situation I find myself in then I make reference to the rule book

There is always a possibility that we could all not know an obscure rule out there but I expect most go through each game playing within the rules

If you want to connect what people including myself do each game to what was said in thread with people stating they would ignore the rule break then away you go - think there is a clear difference between the two scenarios

As I thought. You pick and choose to only apply the rules that you know, as do most of us.

So to answer your question........

Sorry but when did we decide to start picking and choosing which rules to follow and which to ignore.

Now!?!? :thup:
 
As I thought. You pick and choose to only apply the rules that you know, as do most of us.

So to answer your question........



Now!?!? :thup:

So you think that's the same as choosing to ignore rules where people know them which was the point in my post and what people were suggesting in the thread ?

I think there is a clear difference between the situation faced in this thread and how we all play golf

If anyone saw me break a rule I would hope they would let me know - just as I would do the other way ( and have done )

There is a clear set of basic rules that allow us to play the game and we all know those rules and apply those rules every time we play - if I ever find myself in a situation where I'm faced with a possible rule break then I'll consult the book

So no I don't believe I play knowingly breaking rules or picking which rules to ignore and I believe that's valid for most of golfers.
 
So you think that's the same as choosing to ignore rules where people know them which was the point in my post and what people were suggesting in the thread ?

I think there is a clear difference between the situation faced in this thread and how we all play golf

If anyone saw me break a rule I would hope they would let me know - just as I would do the other way ( and have done )

There is a clear set of basic rules that allow us to play the game and we all know those rules and apply those rules every time we play - if I ever find myself in a situation where I'm faced with a possible rule break then I'll consult the book

So no I don't believe I play knowingly breaking rules or picking which rules to ignore and I believe that's valid for most of golfers.

I wouldn't be justifying my stance here Phil, it looks like this chap is just looking for a bite. I'm with you in what you're saying and whole heartedly agree. I've been abused by a member of my club for informing him that he played off our yellow Tees in a medal and he told me it was my fault for not realising. I don't think that people ignore rules (well the majority don't) I just think some people aren't aware of some.

You're clearly well up on them but we can't know them all.
 
So you think that's the same as choosing to ignore rules where people know them which was the point in my post and what people were suggesting in the thread ?

I think there is a clear difference between the situation faced in this thread and how we all play golf

If anyone saw me break a rule I would hope they would let me know - just as I would do the other way ( and have done )

There is a clear set of basic rules that allow us to play the game and we all know those rules and apply those rules every time we play - if I ever find myself in a situation where I'm faced with a possible rule break then I'll consult the book

So no I don't believe I play knowingly breaking rules or picking which rules to ignore and I believe that's valid for most of golfers.

No Phil, it's not what I think. I'm also not the one shouting the odds about picking & choosing which rules to apply.

The quote is yours. If it were mine I'd make sure I knew ALL of the rules before saying as much, but I don't so I wont
 
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