Would you join a club that did not have a dress code?

[Lord Tyrion]

Eh?

"Religious headwear" is allowed.

So I can wear my Celtic Pagan elk's head in the lounge, but not a simple cap?

To refuse religious headwear is presumably discriminatory and so not allowable.

The rest ............

 

[irip]

Why not? It is every members' responsibility to uphold the club rules. Unless of course you are referring to being a visitor at said course.

I was thinking if I was a visitor.

 

[PaulMdj]

To refuse religious headwear is presumably discriminatory and so not allowable.

The rest ............

What if I don’t respect their religion.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I use decent eating houses around the Troon Prestwick Ayr area.
Seeing golfers sitting down to eat wearing hats is not unusual but it looks so wrong. Like men wearing a hat in church.
Many look uncomfortable as they probably don't understand why the locals are giving them strange looks.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

It is not a decision.

"Rules", in terms of what we are discussing here, are opinions.

"The earth is a flat disc at the centre of a universe created by god" is an opinon.

I do not respect opinions ("rules") that are wrong.
But, I suppose, people are allowed to hold such opinions and I am allowed to view those opinions as wrong.

Dress codes are rules of a golf club

If a club has a rule that says don’t wear hats indoors then would expect ever to respect and abide by it

And an “opinion” is just rhat , someone’s opinion and everyone is entitled to one and is respected even if you don’t agree with it

Just human common decency

 

[Imurg]

Eh?

"Religious headwear" is allowed.

So I can wear my Celtic Pagan elk's head in the lounge, but not a simple cap?

Feel free...you'll only do it once....

 

[Lord Tyrion]

What if I don’t respect their religion.

Take it up with the magistrate

 

[doublebogey7]

The rule would have been put in place when it was seen as good etiquette and manners to remove your hat when inside

Of course, but don't you think such rules should be reviewed and account taken on changes in societal norms. Such rules are not conducive to growing the game, though of course clubs are and should be free to decide their own rules.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Of course, but don't you think such rules should be reviewed and account taken on changes in societal norms. Such rules are not conducive to growing the game, though of course clubs are and should be free to decide their own rules.

How does it stop growing the game - don’t think I have come across many if any that won’t play golf because of a dress code ,

There are various levels of clubs and dress codes and there is always a club around that would suit people

 

[Bagger Vance]

Of course, but don't you think such rules should be reviewed and account taken on changes in societal norms. Such rules are not conducive to growing the game, though of course clubs are and should be free to decide their own rules.

Do you have any examples of people refusing to take up golf because of dress code?

 

[RichA]

Do you have any examples of people refusing to take up golf because of dress code?

It took me 35 years to join a golf club because I thought they were all stuffy places full of reactionaries and I could think of better places to spend my chilling out time.
Thankfully I eventually discovered that those kind of clubs are just a noisy minority and are easily avoided.
If you’ve never tried it, when it’s hot I can really recommend playing golf in a t-shirt, athletic shorts and sandals.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Do you have any examples of people refusing to take up golf because of dress code?

Golf has a perception issue. That's an immeasurable problem. To think it doesn't, it doesn't stand up.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I'm going to guess that, at 100% of clubs, having a dress code or not doesn't show itself to alter the number of unrepaired pitch marks, unraked bunkers and unreplaced divots...

I’m going to guess that you might not be 100% correct in that assertion

And just to be clear…I’m not advocating that a dress code for on and off the course has to be of the traditional nature - or indeed not necessarily that close at all - especially in the clubhouse - but I’m thinking I’m not comfortable with NO dress code whatsoever.

 

[Bagger Vance]

Golf has a perception issue. That's an immeasurable problem. To think it doesn't, it doesn't stand up.

People say this but can't actually come up with any examples. It's a cop out to suit their argument. I've played golf for a very long time, never heard of anyone say they won't take up golf because of a dress code.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

People say this but can't actually come up with any examples. It's a cop out to suit their argument. I've played golf for a very long time, never heard of anyone say they won't take up golf because of a dress code.

I've never been to a Gentleman's Club. Never attempted to join one. Doesn't look like my thing. I've never written to one and told them, my perception says I wouldn't like it. I might be wrong, who knows. Do you think the people who run them know?

The dress code is part of an overall perception of golf, not a positive one.

 

[Bagger Vance]

I've never been to a Gentleman's Club. Never attempted to join one. Doesn't look like my thing. I've never written to one and told them, my perception says I wouldn't like it. I might be wrong, who knows. Do you think the people who run them know?

The dress code is part of an overall perception of golf, not a positive one.

Thanks, you have just proved my point. You can't name any specific instances of people refusing to join a golf club because of the dress code. But everyone 'knows' someone that has, strange that. You can't get into any decent club in my area for love nor money as they all have long waiting lists. Funnily enough, they all have dress codes as well.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

It took me 35 years to join a golf club because I thought they were all stuffy places full of reactionaries and I could think of better places to spend my chilling out time.
Thankfully I eventually discovered that those kind of clubs are just a noisy minority and are easily avoided.
If you’ve never tried it, when it’s hot I can really recommend playing golf in a t-shirt, athletic shorts and sandals.

That’s the difference between golf and golf clubs. There isn’t a dress code to play golf

Some clubs will have a dress code but there are many that don’t

 

[kp17]

It took me 35 years to join a golf club because I thought they were all stuffy places full of reactionaries and I could think of better places to spend my chilling out time.
Thankfully I eventually discovered that those kind of clubs are just a noisy minority and are easily avoided.
If you’ve never tried it, when it’s hot I can really recommend playing golf in a t-shirt, athletic shorts and sandals.

If you spent the time I do looking for balls in the trees you’d rethink the sandals

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Thanks, you have just proved my point. You can't name any specific instances of people refusing to join a golf club because of the dress code. But everyone 'knows' someone that has, strange that. You can't get into any decent club in my area for love nor money as they all have long waiting lists. Funnily enough, they all have dress codes as well.

In future I'll be sure to take all relevant details

 

[irip]

Thanks, you have just proved my point. You can't name any specific instances of people refusing to join a golf club because of the dress code. But everyone 'knows' someone that has, strange that. You can't get into any decent club in my area for love nor money as they all have long waiting lists. Funnily enough, they all have dress codes as well.

My son has no interest in golf whatsoever.
His perception of a golf club is its full of old rich blokes with outdated opinions all dressed in suits looking down on other golfers and the world in general.
Although it’s not necessarily the dress code putting him off it’s his view of golf clubs in general (albeit a bit turned up to try and wind me up).
I think that’s a common opinion of golf clubs from non golfers