World Handicap System (WHS)

[lobthewedge]

Not necessarily, depends on the format being played. And the slope rating to be used depends on the tees being played. The slope may be different off the normal tees vs the competition tees.

But an average medal off the back tees he would be off 19.7 (20) ?

 

[lobthewedge]

Partly right. If the course and the tee he is playing on has that slope rating you have calculated his Course Handicap not his Playing Handicap.

Whether or not he and his mates using playing handicap is up to them but it will be used in competitions.

Whats his playing handicap?

 

[Griffsters]

My handicap Index is still showing as calculated from wrong tee, CR and slope. Beginning to wonder if its been overlooked for some reason

 

[Old Skier]

Well here we are halfway through day 2 and the clubs ISV still aren’t able to connect to Dotgolf so people’s handicap still not being shown on IG or HDID etc - what a complete mess

Being shown on HDID since yesterday and coped with any adjustments made last night.

 

[jim8flog]

I still don't really understand why my playing handicap has gone up. All of my cards were off the blocks at my club, and to go up a whole shot would probably have taken a year. As it is, I have gone up a shot in a day.
If I could previously play to 11, which was bad enough, why do I now play to 12, when nothing has really changed.
And yes, I know the calculation, it just seems daft. Ot would make more sense to me if your playing h/cap at home was the same as your index, and it just changed when you played off diffrrent tees, or went away.

This is the joy of the WHS put in enough rounds at it reflects your current ability not that of a year ago.

I will have gone up by 3 shots in a year when it is all settled and dusted that would have taken me 3 years under the UHS and by the end of the 3 years I might have needed another 2 shots.

 

[Imurg]

Whats his playing handicap?

If he's playing the monthly medal then its Course Handicap x 95%.

 

[jim8flog]

Whats his playing handicap?

Playing Handicap depends on the competition format being played.

In singles handicap and stableford coms it will be 95%
Pairs handicap and stableford comps 85%
In Pairs match play 90%

various other %s in other formats.

 

[Old Skier]

Im sure the answer is in here somewhere, but cant be arsed looking through all the posts.

My dad has a new handicap index of 17.4

Our course has a slope rating of 128.

So his new playing/course handicap when out with his mates is (17.4 x 128) / 113 = 19.7

Is this correct?

Just go to the board at the club and look at the tees he’s using and read across for his course handicap using his index, there are no point anything’s in a course handicap.

Just had our first comp today which unfortunately had to be a NQ as three holes were being worked on but with a bit of coaching every pone grasped the system, perhaps the difference is that they weren’t bothered with the maths just with the index.

 

[Tashyboy]

Been assured by our secretary that the WHS has assured him that the WHS will be sorted out on Thursday. The day after lockdown ?

 

[Tashyboy]

Im sure the answer is in here somewhere, but cant be arsed looking through all the posts.

My dad has a new handicap index of 17.4

Our course has a slope rating of 128.

So his new playing/course handicap when out with his mates is (17.4 x 128) / 113 = 19.7

Is this correct?

The easiest way would be to register on the England golf site and that would tell you ?

 

[lobthewedge]

If he's playing the monthly medal then its Course Handicap x 95%.

Seriously??

So i now have to explain to him that for an average Saturday medal he has a Handicap Index of 17.4, a Course Handicap of 19.7, and a Playing Handicap of 18.7.

You do realize i'm going to get sworn at and possibly something thrown at me!!

What clown thought this was a good idea?

 

[jim8flog]

And as if by magic it’s now on there now


But i understand that Dotgolf are not allowing the handicap records to be released onto other platforms

IG
I can see it on the app and on the website in 'my rounds' but not in 'my handicap' record yet.

 

[Old Skier]

Updates on data transfer and accreditation​

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WHS Update
3 November 2020

WHS Update
3 November 2020​

The World Handicap System (WHS) launched in England on Monday and we would like to take this opportunity to update you on several key items of note.

Firstly, thanks to all clubs who have engaged with us, especially in recent months, to help introduce the WHS after so many years in the making.

It has been a monumental task – and for that we appreciate your ongoing support and patience while the system beds in.

Data transfer

Over 15 million historical scores have now been transferred from the CONGU system to the new WHS.

This is data previously transferred from golf clubs to the old system.

We have already had 200,000 golfers engage with the system and start to enjoy the benefits of doing so.

With such a massive transfer of data there were bound to be technical challenges, but we are dealing with the minor elements of the system that still require immediate attention.

We can confirm that all historical CSS data has been pulled through from the old system.

We continue to work on refreshing areas of the data including the mapping of tees.
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Emails and dates of birth

In order for England Golf to release a Handicap Index, we require a personal email address and date of birth for every golfer registered on the platform.

Clubs that have transferred details with a generic club email address should note that these cannot be accepted for reasons of verifying an individual’s identity and to ensure the integrity of the system.

This week we will begin the process of deleting all generic club email addresses (if assigned to your members' records) from the system.

This is in line with our policy which has been consistently communicated to all clubs since July.

Clubs can either input new email addresses for each player via the WHS Golf Club Platform or ask their software provider to transfer this information on their behalf.​

Golfer and Club Toolkits

These step-by-step guides to the WHS are still available for download from the following links:

• Golfer’s Toolkit
• Club Toolkit

Please make use of the range of resources and ensure that the players toolkit is shared with all your members.​

 

[jim8flog]

Seriously??

So i now have to explain to him that for an average Saturday medal he has a Handicap Index of 17.4, a Course Handicap of 19.7, and a Playing Handicap of 18.7.

You do realize i'm going to get sworn at and possibly something thrown at me!!

What clown thought this was a good idea?

His course handicap would be 20 (forgot the rounding) and like now Playing Handicaps are also rounded to the nearest whole number.

When he goes to his club they will have charts posted by the 1st tee to convert his Handicap Index to a course handicap according to the tee being used. He only has has to make sure his course handicap is correctly recorded recorded on his card and record the gross for each hole the computers do the rest.

 

[Old Skier]

Seriously??

So i now have to explain to him that for an average Saturday medal he has a Handicap Index of 17.4, a Course Handicap of 19.7, and a Playing Handicap of 18.7.

You do realize i'm going to get sworn at and possibly something thrown at me!!

What clown thought this was a good idea?

You have it all wrong, nobody’s course or playing handicap will have a point anything in it. It sounds like your club have not been informing members over the last 3 months/weeks about the WHS.

 

[Deleted member 25172]

His course handicap would be 20 (forgot the rounding) and like now Playing Handicaps are also rounded to the nearest whole number.

When he goes to his club they will have charts posted by the 1st tee to convert his Handicap Index to a course handicap according to the tee being used. He only has has to make sure his course handicap is correctly recorded recorded on his card and record the gross for each hole the computers do the rest.

What do we put in the total score in a stableford with blobs? The stableford score? Can imagine a lot of people with a course handicap of 11 and above forget to take 95% to get their playing handicap, so they would then put in the wrong stableford points in the total score.

 

[lobthewedge]

You have it all wrong, nobody’s course or playing handicap will have a point anything in it. It sounds like your club have not been informing members over the last 3 months/weeks about the WHS.

To be fair they have, but i dont really bother with my handicap, only interested in scratch comps.

My old man doesnt do emails, so has missed all the info. Just as well or he would probably have chucked his clubs and bought a set of bowls!

 

[jim8flog]

What do we put in the total score in a stableford with blobs? The stableford score? Can imagine a lot of people with a course handicap of 11 and above forget to take 95% to get their playing handicap, so they would then put in the wrong stableford points in the total score.

It does not matter if a player gets the Stableford points wrong. The committee is responsible for applying the handicap to get the stableford points and any errors in stableford points are corrected by the software. It is a mistake often made by players under the current system.

In stableford scoring it is important to only put a NR , a dash or leave blank in the gross score when the players knows they could not score any points based upon the Course Handicap and not the Playing Handicap.

 

[Old Skier]

What do we put in the total score in a stableford with blobs? The stableford score? Can imagine a lot of people with a course handicap of 11 and above forget to take 95% to get their playing handicap, so they would then put in the wrong stableford points in the total score.

Tested this today. If it’s a stableford comp and your entering gross scores you put in a 0 you now also put in your markers name from a drop down and at the end you electronically signed the screen.

 

[Deleted member 25172]

It does not matter if a player gets the Stableford points wrong. The committee is responsible for applying the handicap to get the stableford points and any errors in stableford points are corrected by the software. It is a mistake often made by players under the current system.

In stableford scoring it is important to only put a NR , a dash or leave blank in the gross score when the players knows they could not score any points based upon the Course Handicap and not the Playing Handicap.

Ah, then it's clear as a bell. Thanks!