Womens British Open

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Slab said:
Got to agree that pace is a huge issue for live televised golf, and they both need to start issuing meaningful penalties (if they can do it for a disputed ball movement on a slick green they can do it for the slow-pokes)

Course length not sure though, isn't that just due to the physical difference in distance off the tee and allows the course and its hazards to be played as the designer/comp organisers set it up. You could move the ladies back but would likely mean that lots of hazards no longer in play (& often they'd walk past the other tees to get to the ladies ones so 'travel distance' is not really that different)

Saw Day yesterday, he didn't even start talking to his caddy about the shot till it was his turn to play his 2nd shot (when the camera would be on him) so I think both tours have their problems and couldn't say one was worse because of a caddy lining up, esp as he's doing it concurrently to the players PSR
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In general the dreaded PSR's are far more deliberate and take longer in the women's game.

The fact is that the women's game has to work harder to sell itself as a spectator/TV sport and aping the slow play of the worst of their male counterparts is not going to achieve that.
 
MetalMickie said:
In general the dreaded PSR's are far more deliberate and take longer in the women's game.

The fact is that the women's game has to work harder to sell itself as a spectator/TV sport and aping the slow play of the worst of their male counterparts is not going to achieve that.
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I've never attended a ladies tour event so only got the TV coverage to go by which doesn't seem too different (but a lot could be hidden in that I guess)

And can't disagree the womens game do have to work harder to get their just recognition but think we'd both agree that the men's game isn't any kind of role model when it comes to pace

As I say, no fan of the lining up thing (I think it would put me off my shot) and i think it'd be fascinating if the tour chiefs did a time & motion on a couple of events to see where the time really goes
 
3565 said:
I went to watch it today, and whilst it was more relatable watching women's golf to the men's, you found the time they took to actually talk about the shot in question with their caddies were longer then any aimpoint, green reading of 360*, or caddies lining up their players on shots or putts. I watched Ko on 11 and her discussion with her caddy for a 60yd chip out on to the fairway on the par 5 11th was silly TBH. Whilst she was asking Marshalls to drop the ropes, the caddy paced from her ball to get over the bunker onto the fairway.

Cant exactly remember what was said but similar

Whats the number to clear the bunker?
45.
45?
Yes you just need to clear the bunker by 10yds
ok, and the fairway runs away?
yeah yeah.

Then she discusses the lie of her ball with him and club selection saying is it right club, and got a slight ball below feet, then practise swings and another confirmation of yardage, then back to caddy to wipe on towel then back to ball, caddy checks he alignment says 'good' then swings and knocks the ball 30yards past the bunker to other side but I didn't see where she finished as I left her.

But I checked back later with them and they did seem to be a lot quicker then they were earlier on in the round. So they must of had a warning.

But out overall it was good to watch them, even if they did seem to take their time.
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Could easy substitute Spieth in this conversation. Watched Day / McIlroy / PM for their entire round yesterday and Day is desperately slow - McIlroy appears to rush. But the difference is in the scores. What's the incentive for you to speed up if you're going to score worse?
 
rksquire said:
Could easy substitute Spieth in this conversation. Watched Day / McIlroy / PM for their entire round yesterday and Day is desperately slow - McIlroy appears to rush. But the difference is in the scores. What's the incentive for you to speed up if you're going to score worse?
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I thought that too, mostly on the greens but fairways too
(rushing for a tour pro that is, which is not the same as us rushing)
 
FairwayDodger said:
I see catriona is burning it up today. -7 through 14 holes to go -9 overall!

:whoo:
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Great round. Hope she keeps it up over the weekend.:cool:
With the Solheim and the Olympics could be a memorable year.
Listening to the interviews post round its interesting how the ladies seam much more positive about the Olympics, personally i think the gents could learn a thing or two. There are not many opportunities to represent your country in pro golf.:)
 
Smiffy said:
It wasn't at the end of March.....:mad::mad:

Would love the opportunity to play it as it's set up now.
How short is the par 3 14th playing :eek:
They are knocking 5 and 6 irons off of there.
It was a bloody driver from where we played it.
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Pretty sure I saw Fish's yellow ball on the first from the blimp shot!
 
Went over to Woburn yesterday to watch this, was very impressed with the quality of golf we saw. These girls were striking the ball well and can hit the ball a long way, it was a pleasure to watch. one of the caddies stopped to talk to us, asking if we were members (we had member passes as my mate is), he was very complimentary on the course, thought it was "awesome". Wish I could hit the ball as well as some of those girls.
 
I decided, after years of prevaricating, to attend this year's Womens British Open 1. As it was close by at Woburn 2. To entice my son to watch a tournament. We ended up getting work though a friend at IMG & were given Carryboard duty on Friday & Sunday. Best player in my group on Friday was Ha Na Jang of South Korea followed by Moriya Jutanugarn of Thailand. Both women hit stunning iron shots & Jang controlled Wedges from all distances like they were on a remote control device. Our scorer had to note down drive distance at 7 & 13. Jang was outdriven by English player Florentyna Parker on 13th with a distance of 285 yards & this on sodden fairways on the Marquess' course. Jang shot 6 under on the day with a couple of three putts. The course measured just over 6,500 yards so no pushover. Same day Mirim Lee shot a course record 62.

Sunday I had the pleasure of working on the two ball of In Gee Chun (again of Korea) & Beatriz Recari of Spain. Recari holed out for Eagle on 4th & Chun managed a 290 yard drive down 13 in between 5 birdies.

It's not everyone's cup of tea but for the Entry Fee, distraction of (mostly) young ladies trotting around in short shorts or skirts & figure hugging outfits, great shot making alongside a well appointed Tented Village & concessions I'd say it's well worth a visit the next time it's played anywhere near where you live.

Next year it's Kingsbarns. Check out the website http://ricohwomensbritishopen.com for more details.
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