94tegsi
Assistant Pro
No change all year round pretty much.
It is very rare that the course closes down comletely due to weather conditions. Happens maybe once or twice each winter and only for a few days at a time, mostly after heavy snowfall.
dont see why thats a ridiculous thing to do? fairway mats are awful, might as well just go to the range.
at least by placing the ball in the rough/first cut you get to play off grass, get the good lie you deserve (for hitting the fairway) whilst preserving the fairways for the summer.
This thought of thread makes me smile at the range of experiences you get in the UK... when at Bowood in Wiltshire, played with a guy who'd just moved from Glasgow. he asked about fairway mats in the winter, I'd never heard of them before that!
Current course will put the par 3 tees, and some others which are in heavy shade areas on mats from about now, till it warms up again. They like to rope off the fronts of greens to make trolleys avoid heavy wear areas , so out comes the carry bag!! We get some temps if frosty.. We have a couple of holes that don't train quite as well, but on the whole golf goes on as we know it!
Most stuff is a day to day decision based on the previous 24 hours weather... which in Welsh, is translated is to "how much rain we 'ad bud?"
Yeah its interesting the array of experiences you get! I personally hate the matts! I prefer pick and place.
I would hate to pick my ball up and place in the rough. I can think of several parts of our course where placing it in the rough (either side of the fairway) would leave you with a very poor position with no line to the green. If the rule was nearest rough the situation would be even worse. I think if that was all winter I would not be a member at all!
Preferred lies then within 100 yards of the green the option to either use a fairway mat or move to the first cut. Winter greens when necessary.
Incidentally you're both a bit right on the move to the first cut or not argument. With the option, I usually prefer to move to the rough to play from turf rather than a mat but there are some times where I think I'd rather play from the fairway than come in at the angle I'd need to from the rough. Agree, though, I can't think of any time where I wouldn't have a shot to the green from either side of the fairway.
there is no way, putting the ball in the first cut of rough on both sides of a hole would leave you with no shot to the green. no chance whatsoever.
even if it was a 90 degree dogleg, you'd move it to the furthest side of the fairway.
par 5 at our course, two huge trees either side of the fairway 100 yards from green. If you are within 40 yards of the trees just off the fairway you don’t have the angle to go for the green and you can’t go over them and carry the 100 yards.
As you say 90 degree dogleg (we have 2). As you say one side you can’t cut any of the corner. On one the far side you have just made your uphill shot 220 yards instead of 175, and now on a downhill lie. Elsewhere overhanging trees (we have lots) will stop you.
The MillbrookWhat’s your course?
dont see why thats a ridiculous thing to do? fairway mats are awful, might as well just go to the range.
at least by placing the ball in the rough/first cut you get to play off grass, get the good lie you deserve (for hitting the fairway) whilst preserving the fairways for the summer.