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I did. Much longer shaft as well so changed my stance and address position as well.
So you had to change things to fit the club - you custom fit your swing.
I did. Much longer shaft as well so changed my stance and address position as well.
So you had to change things to fit the club - you custom fit your swing.
Do it all the time - change my stance and swing to suit what I want to achieve. Closest I've got to fitting club to me was recently buying my new Odyssey white hot pro #2 c/s putter as it was deemed my a mate 'who knows' to be as close to my old Acushnet bullseye as I'd find in a 'modern' putter. I took it on to the putting green for 10mins - then bought it. Didn't try any other putter. And I've kept my putting stroke and set up exactly as before - and it works a treat - marvellous
Do it all the time - change my stance and swing to suit what I want to achieve. Closest I've got to fitting club to me was recently buying my new Odyssey white hot pro #2 c/s putter as it was deemed my a mate 'who knows' to be as close to my old Acushnet bullseye as I'd find in a 'modern' putter. I took it on to the putting green for 10mins - then bought it. Didn't try any other putter. And I've kept my putting stroke and set up exactly as before - and it works a treat - marvellous
A quite reasonable approach but, if you are going to mention techno-babble, either specify that is what it is (no problem with that) or make sure that it really is techno-babble.
Smash Factor is about quality of strike - and is a legitimate/useful stat. You would have been better off using MOI or 'increased/expanded Sweet Spot' (which really is Techno-Babble!).
What's the matter with MOI ? A simple geometric property purely based on dimensions etc?
But we could talk about MOI of the whole club and shaft as a basis for fitting - now that would be fun.
There were various ways of "matching" clubs in a set in the 50s onwards, including at least one manufacturer who made all of the clubs in a set the same length !
Whats been proven?
As far a i know the average handicap has been pretty static for years, despite all manner of people getting uber excited about the latest custom fit or club technology.
So on the one hand you're not good enough to swing a club the same way twice but on the other you have multiple swings to suit various clubs, different shots and your imagination?
You'll have to excuse me if I'm a tad unconvinced.
Not saying I don't swing a golf club twice the same way - but I don't really know what I do as I taught myself to play and I swing it as I imagine the shot. And yes I'm thinking that I don't set up the same way for any two shots in succession - and though I may hit the same distance more than once in a round I suspect that I play quite different shots each time. So for instance I don't have a standard 150yd approach shot - I just don't. Sometimes I'll think I feel like floating it in high cut - others maybe I feel like hitting a high draw - sometimes a low draw - sometimes a punch shot. Maybe I shouldn't and should develop a more disciplined/standardized approach to the game - but I have fun doing the way I do it.
Which kind of explains why I don;t practice on the range. Don't really know what I'd be trying to practice.
Whats been proven?
As far a i know the average handicap has been pretty static for years, despite all manner of people getting uber excited about the latest custom fit or club technology.
Not saying I don't swing a golf club twice the same way - but I don't really know what I do as I taught myself to play and I swing it as I imagine the shot. And yes I'm thinking that I don't set up the same way for any two shots in succession - and though I may hit the same distance more than once in a round I suspect that I play quite different shots each time. So for instance I don't have a standard 150yd approach shot - I just don't. Sometimes I'll think I feel like floating it in high cut - others maybe I feel like hitting a high draw - sometimes a low draw - sometimes a punch shot. Maybe I shouldn't and should develop a more disciplined/standardized approach to the game - but I have fun doing the way I do it.
Which kind of explains why I don;t practice on the range. Don't really know what I'd be trying to practice.
But you don't need to swing in a textbook way to benefit from a CF, just getting the right length and lie on your irons would be a benefit, regardless of shaft flex etc.
I'm just imagining the possible results of using totally the wrong set of clubs:
You are given a set of std length & lie, regular flex clubs.
You are very tall so you have to stand closer to the ball.
Because you stand closer the shaft is more upright, so you hit it toe down, as such you have to aim left to make up for the face opening on impact with the ground.
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I find it amazing that people still buy expensive golf equipment off the shelf without being fitted for it.
Yes people managed to play well many years ago, they also managed to communicate with each other by mail or carrier pigeon, but things have moved on, technology has given us all kinds of modern advantages like computers, mobile phones and launch monitors.
People play golf because they enjoy the game, and they are more likely to enjoy it if they play well, this has to be more likely if you use custom fit clubs that actually suit you and you are not fighting or having to compensate for. Two men walking into a tailors, one 5ft 3", the other 6ft 2" are not going to walk out with the same off the peg suit so why should they walk out of the pro shop with the same golf clubs?
People on here have said that if you are CF then it maximises your distance and dispersion, this is true, but what it is also about is minimising the damage on your bad shots. If you are prone to a certain bad shot that ruins your card, this can be taken into account in the fitting to reduce the damage.
Consistency is a big factor, fitting someone for a set of irons isn't about how far they CAN hit the clubs, it's how far they hit it CONSISTENTLY. There's no point in hitting one 7i that bullets to 170yds, then the next, not quite perfect one spins up and goes 135. you want the perfect and not quite perfect strikes to go as close as possible to each other so that both will go similar distances and still be on the green.
BTW Custom Fitting is not a new thing, it was first pioneered by Karsten Solheim, founder of Ping, in 1972 so it's been with us over 40 years. Yes it has moved on with launch monitors and a lot more shaft options but the basic principle is the same. Getting a made to measure set of clubs (including putter) will increase your enjoyment of the game because it will help you to play better.
I don't find it amazing at all, many retailers simply have no interest or desire in fitting you. When I purchased a brand new set of irons (the only time I have every bought new) 10 or so years ago , I was told by the assistant at Wexham Park GC that with my height and build fitting wouldn't be necessary.
Many retailers don't have launch monitors, or they might let you hit a club on the range if you are lucky and ask you how you got on with it afterwards. It is very easy to buy clubs without the subject of fitting to ever be mentioned or advised. Many golfers are not members of clubs either so there is no local Pro to refer to for advice and guidance.
Just my 2p on the subject of 'fitting' which makes my teeth grind every time I hear it.
I don't find it amazing at all, many retailers simply have no interest or desire in fitting you. When I purchased a brand new set of irons (the only time I have every bought new) 10 or so years ago , I was told by the assistant at Wexham Park GC that with my height and build fitting wouldn't be necessary.
Many retailers don't have launch monitors, or they might let you hit a club on the range if you are lucky and ask you how you got on with it afterwards. It is very easy to buy clubs without the subject of fitting to ever be mentioned or advised. Many golfers are not members of clubs either so there is no local Pro to refer to for advice and guidance.
Just my 2p on the subject of 'fitting' which makes my teeth grind every time I hear it.