Birchy
Money List Winner
Also how often do you practice what he is teaching you in between lessons? This is vital imo.
Why can't pro's just sort out what they get asked to?
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dufferman
Journeyman Pro
I didn't mean I don't practice, I totally agree that practice makes perfect - back when I took these lessons I could only get to the range once a week usually, and when drastic changes are being made I feel that you need a good 8 hours of practice time (5/6 sessions on the range?) to make them sit. The other thing is taking a new swing on the course can completely kill the enjoyment, if you're hitting only 1 or 2 good shots a round, all the rests are duffs & tops & thins etc.
That all sounds fine, but when the pro asks you to book your next lesson in two weeks from the last lesson...
bobmac
Major Champion
The reason you are slicing and losing distance is because you are cutting across the ball with the face of the club open.
This adds loft robbing you of distance and imparts side spin causing your slice.
If you want to improve your direction and distance, you have to swing on a straighter line and keep the face neutral through impact.
And your not alone....it's the biggest fault in golf.
This adds loft robbing you of distance and imparts side spin causing your slice.
If you want to improve your direction and distance, you have to swing on a straighter line and keep the face neutral through impact.
And your not alone....it's the biggest fault in golf.
Biggleswade Blue
Head Pro
If your pro is insisting you book the next lesson in a fortnight, you need a new pro (in my view).
There is no point in having a lesson, if you don't practice what you've been taught. I'm having blocks of lessons, but time between lessons is entirely up to me, depending on how much I have been able to play and practice. When I feel I'm ready for the next one, I book it and that is entirely what my pro has suggested. Occasionally I have left it a bit too long between lessons, but if I'm not going to practice in between what he teaches, what is the point of a lesson?
There is no point in having a lesson, if you don't practice what you've been taught. I'm having blocks of lessons, but time between lessons is entirely up to me, depending on how much I have been able to play and practice. When I feel I'm ready for the next one, I book it and that is entirely what my pro has suggested. Occasionally I have left it a bit too long between lessons, but if I'm not going to practice in between what he teaches, what is the point of a lesson?
lyden
Head Pro
I've seen people who slice the ball with a swing that a judge would call assault with a deadly weapon and others that swing well but get the timing a fraction out. Trying hitting with a closed club face and see what direction it starts / finishes. If it goes left or straight your the latter person, if it still slices your the first.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Exactly the point I've made for years.
Lessons are fine if you're going to put the graft in to make any changes stick.
If you can't/won't then you're lining the Pros pocket....
I have the same thing in my line - kids who take a few driving lessons, have a 3 month break, take some more, have a break etc etc
I love it - it takes them ages to pass and I get more cash - they have to keep practicing/learning but try telling them and it falls on deaf ears
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
problem is tho to their friends they probably blame you .. or the tester.. where in reality they are to blame
You don't have to be hitting balls to practice.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
Hashed up a quick pic, slightly exaggerated the curves to show clearly the physics of it....
The top part shows a face on view with the ball on a tee. The club goes past it's 'low point' so that you can hit the ball on the way up.
The bottom part show an 'above' view. As we said the club goes past the low point so we can hit the ball on the way up.... but as soon as the club goes past the low point it's actually swinging LEFT (arrows show path direction). If the face is square to the target AT IMPACT then that's a slice.
There are ways around it but as I said, if you're setting up square, club face square and hitting on the up then that's going to be a slice.
lyden
Head Pro
I remember a gm issue where ootshuizen sets up open, so are you saying he has to hit it with a closed face or on the downswing?
chrisd
Major Champion
Always ! But I believe it's the pros greatest complaint about students, either they don't practice or abandon the advice as soon as it doesn't work
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
I guess they are assuming you actually want to fix the fault permanently and not just for 3 weeks. The golf swing is a series of complex moves which can very rarely be fixed by "just doing this". If that is what you're after, it's gonna be a long long search. I'd stick to your Internet findings though I doubt it will help in the long term
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Don't swing fast and don't lift yer head then!
Big fans of lessons but its a two way street. You need to explain to the pro what you want to achieve and the pro needs to be open and explaing why you need to do x and y to get to z. Then if you are happy and trust and enjoy the way he teaches you have to sometimes accept that in the bigger scheme of things the other faults need fixing first. Stick with it, work hard on the drill and practice routines and work towards your goal. Each time you go back reiterate what you want to do and see hpw far down the path the pro thinks you are.
I think you have more issues than perhaps you think. Practice drills need to be worked hard on and its not good hitting 30-50 balls one by one rehearsing and doing the drill and then blasting another 50 because you're bored or it isn't going well
I think you have more issues than perhaps you think. Practice drills need to be worked hard on and its not good hitting 30-50 balls one by one rehearsing and doing the drill and then blasting another 50 because you're bored or it isn't going well
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So the basic premise of this post is that you want a miracle cure in a 30 minute lesson. Not going to happen. Unless you are naturally talented, golf is a game you are going to have to work at. Hard. Just stick with one pro and let him go through it. You have to get worse to get better.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Let this be a lesson to you,never EVER disrespect lessons on this forum:rofl:
Foxholer
Blackballed
Apart from the 'having to get worse to get better', I absolutely concur with this post.
Any game requires practice and to think that lessons alone will fix the problem is ridiculous.
If you want to fix your driver slice, check out Bob's head-cover drill - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsrovFJ3o9I
Now stop having stupidly unrealistic ideas about what a 30min lesson can achieve!
stevelev
Journeyman Pro
You don't say how much you ritually practise what the pro's have given you to go away with. To reconstruct a swing takes a good while of doing it the right way every time until it is ingrained. I have had lessons and each pro has said different but they all said I need to practise plenty to let the changes bed in. And they don't mean playing, in the net or range time taking your time to hit each shot as you would on the tee or fairway.
dufferman
Journeyman Pro
Call me mad, but when asking the question 'can you help me fix my slice off the tee, when I don't slice the ball on any other club?' and a pro responds with 'yes, let's start by hitting some 7 irons and examining your set up' my mind starts asking if the pro has really listened. As I mentioned, I had 5 or 6 lessons with these guys, with 2 weeks gap in between and practice as often as possible. A 30 minute cure is a bit over the top, no?
My driving has greatly improved since then, and where there are occasional days where things start creeping right again, it has been significantly reduced from what it was.
It's quite interesting to see different opinions of pros. I get to practice a lot more these days since my work hours have changed - I think that is the biggest help to my game over any lesson or YouTube video or magazine article!
dufferman
Journeyman Pro
Hit the nail on the head!!
