Who is going to win the premiership title.

[chrisd]

It wouldn't be any shock to see a big club come in a lure Suarez away. Whether that is a good thing or not is open to debate but personally (only my own opinion) the negative stuff he has been involved in outweigh the goals and I don't think his a great advert for the PL. That said, if he does stay and Liverpool can get 5-6 top quality players (their history in the transfer market and expensive flops) so they have a bigger squad that can rotate and still be as strong as their current starting XI, they will definitely be a title challenging side again. A good CL run would be good to see as I like any British side to do well in Europe

Yes we sung songs about Suarez on his arse all the time and he does have bit of Craig Bellamy about him which aggrevates opposition crowds, but, come on Homer, he is a fantastic player, wonderful goal scorer, awesome talent and the reason that I bought my season ticket was to see the likes of him, Rooney, and others when they played at our place.

I, for one, don't think that anything outweighs the wonder goals he's scored and the positive contribution to the PL and I'd love it that he stays next year - preferably with a move to Selhurst!!

 

[Foxholer]

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People may think I am a bit soft in the head for the next statement, but I will make it anyway........

I think that we will have to sell Suarez if we want to be competitive next season. For what Suarez will go for you could buy 1 top striker for £40M and another for £20M, so that would be Suarez replaced, a good back up striker and still probably £20M added to the transfer kitty. So then we would have about £80M to strengthen the defence and midfield.

Sound logic in that strategy.

Just don't do what Spurs did and waste (and that's being kind) the opportunity.

Not sure whether it wouldn't be 'safer' to hang on to him though - proven quality and something every team fears! If he does go, it has to be to a non PL team too! Torres might rekindle his spark and be going 'cheaply' over the Summer!

But it's the defence that needs the most 'investment' - not so much for quality of players, but for a 'General' in the Adams/Terry/Schmeichel style!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Sound logic in that strategy.

Just don't do what Spurs did and waste (and that's being kind) the opportunity.

Not sure whether it wouldn't be 'safer' to hang on to him though - proven quality and something every team fears! If he does go, it has to be to a non PL team too! Torres might rekindle his spark and be going 'cheaply' over the Summer!

But it's the defence that needs the most 'investment' - not so much for quality of players, but for a 'General' in the Adams/Terry/Schmeichel style!

And the manager to start managing games tactically better. 3-1 up we never going to win the league there and then but conceding another 2 weve lost it.

Sturridge for Agger and we see the game out, but like I said hindsights a great thing, he just needs to make sure he doesn't do it again. Learn from it.

 

[Liverbirdie]

And the manager to start managing games tactically better. 3-1 up we never going to win the league there and then but conceding another 2 weve lost it.

Sturridge for Agger and we see the game out, but like I said hindsights a great thing, he just needs to make sure he doesn't do it again. Learn from it.

Hindsight, as you say. At 60 mins it looked like we could have gone on and got 5 or more. That would have put more pressure on city. We tried and we crashed and burned. If we'd have won 5-0, there wouldn't be half as many hindsight managers on here.

 

[bladeplayer]

Hindsight, as you say. At 60 mins it looked like we could have gone on and got 5 or more. That would have put more pressure on city. We tried and we crashed and burned. If we'd have won 5-0, there wouldn't be half as many hindsight managers on here.

Or if ye had sat comfortably on the 3 nil and lost the league on GD people would say ye had the chance against palace and didnt show enough ambition ..
Your bang on , Never a mistake in hindsight mate

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Hindsight, as you say. At 60 mins it looked like we could have gone on and got 5 or more. That would have put more pressure on city. We tried and we crashed and burned. If we'd have won 5-0, there wouldn't be half as many hindsight managers on here.

I agree at 3-0 we were cruising then we concede 2 in 4 mins, ask yourself this would Pellegrini, mourinho Ferguson,ancellotti, Wenger if in our situation at 3-1/3-2 made that substitution??

Last week against Chelsea they were 1-0 up with 20mins to go and mourinho threw cahil on to see the game out.

We handed the title to city, why not win 3-1/3-2 and make city win there last 2?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Or if ye had sat comfortably on the 3 nil and lost the league on GD people would say ye had the chance against palace and didnt show enough ambition ..
Your bang on , Never a mistake in hindsight mate

Bill, I'm not having that. At least we would've still be in the hunt to win it. Weve handed it on a plate to city when we didn't need to. We probably would've need a 20 goal swing in 2 games .

Poor game management from the manager to the players have cost is this season.

 

[Liverbirdie]

I agree at 3-0 we were cruising then we concede 2 in 4 mins, ask yourself this would Pellegrini, mourinho Ferguson,ancellotti, Wenger if in our situation at 3-1/3-2 made that substitution??

Last week against Chelsea they were 1-0 up with 20mins to go and mourinho threw cahil on to see the game out.

We handed the title to city, why not win 3-1/3-2 and make city win there last 2?

Your right at 3-1. 3-0 was a different kettle of fish, as Chris D said - best fightback he's seen from palace in 50 years. It just does my head in like all the tools in work who just re-itterate what carragher/Neville says as if it's gospel without thinking for themselves. Sometimes they're right, sometimes not. Lets face it if Carragher was managing that side, we'd only have one player in the opposition half. We've scored loads of goals, loads of great goals, performances, results, 1-2 bad results are not going to spoil the season for me. I'm desperate to win the league as much as the next man, but it doesn't make Rodgers a BAD manager, cos of 1-2 bad results. Show me one manager who has never made a mistake.

 

[bladeplayer]

Bill, I'm not having that. At least we would've still be in the hunt to win it. Weve handed it on a plate to city when we didn't need to. We probably would've need a 20 goal swing in 2 games .

Poor game management from the manager to the players have cost is this season.

No mate having read your post below , you are right , particulary when the 2nd went in , the door should have been slammed shut and the priorities changed to "we must at least win" no matter what ..

I agree at 3-0 we were cruising then we concede 2 in 4 mins, ask yourself this would Pellegrini, mourinho Ferguson,ancellotti, Wenger if in our situation at 3-1/3-2 made that substitution??

Last week against Chelsea they were 1-0 up with 20mins to go and mourinho threw cahil on to see the game out.

We handed the title to city, why not win 3-1/3-2 and make city win there last 2?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Your right at 3-1. 3-0 was a different kettle of fish, as Chris D said - best fightback he's seen from palace in 50 years. It just does my head in like all the tools in work who just re-itterate what carragher/Neville says as if it's gospel without thinking for themselves. Sometimes they're right, sometimes not. Lets face it if Carragher was managing that side, we'd only have one player in the opposition half. We've scored loads of goals, loads of great goals, performances, results, 1-2 bad results are not going to spoil the season for me. I'm desperate to win the league as muchs the next man, but it doesn't make Rodgers a BAD manager, cos of 1-2 bad results. Show me one manager who has never made a mistake.

There's loads of idiots who've posted in this thread who talk like football was invented when United won the league and 92.

I'm not saying Rodgers is a bad manager,like I said I just hope he learns there's more than 1.way to win a game.

United have been winning ugly for years.

 

[Papas1982]

There's loads of idiots who've posted in this thread who talk like football was invented when United won the league and 92.

I'm not saying Rodgers is a bad manager,like I said I just hope he learns there's more than 1.way to win a game.

United have been winning ugly for years.

infortunately it appears Rodgers doesn't want to do the same. Rogers deserves great credit for what he's done at Liverpool. But unless other the summer he evaluates the season and accepts defence needs work. Next year could be a very hard season. The squad will need quite a few additions for a league assault and CL. Look at some of the teams who've played Europe for first time recently with small squads. Swansea, Newcastle and spurs league positions have fallen drastically with the extra footy. Liverpool currently have massive confidence in their style, but if a few defeats sink in early it could all change.

Im im not sure anybody on here has called rb a bad manager. I'd say naive maybe. Like you say, he needs to learn. Fast!

 

[Liverbirdie]

infortunately it appears Rodgers doesn't want to do the same. Rogers deserves great credit for what he's done at Liverpool. But unless other the summer he evaluates the season and accepts defence needs work. Next year could be a very hard season. The squad will need quite a few additions for a league assault and CL. Look at some of the teams who've played Europe for first time recently with small squads. Swansea, Newcastle and spurs league positions have fallen drastically with the extra footy. Liverpool currently have massive confidence in their style, but if a few defeats sink in early it could all change.

Im im not sure anybody on here has called rb a bad manager. I'd say naive maybe. Like you say, he needs to learn. Fast!

Agreed. Last year and the year before we needed goals, he has doubled and more our previous tallies. I doubt he will half our goals conceded next season, but if he can improve it by 30% and keep our goals for (very hard), we may be ok. I think he will learn a lot, no-one also said he was perfect. At the moment though, I wouldn't swap him. Sure its the same for Martinez at Everton, just a shame that he wont have much to invest, as only getting Europa league, and will possibly be 3 very good loan players shorter. He's still done a fine job though.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

It appears to me that Rodgers is far too good a coach/manager not to be aware of the current deficiencies in the Liverpool team when it comes to defending and as an outsider I am certain that he will be working to bring in the right players whilst also improving the current lot.

This is why I don't think that folks should be writing off Liverpool and saying that if they don't win the League this year they never will.

 

[Papas1982]

It appears to me that Rodgers is far too good a coach/manager not to be aware of the current deficiencies in the Liverpool team when it comes to defending and as an outsider I am certain that he will be working to bring in the right players whilst also improving the current lot.

This is why I don't think that folks should be writing off Liverpool and saying that if they don't win the League this year they never will.

I'm sure he's a good enough coach to be able to improve Liverpools defence. I'm just not sure he's to inclined too. In many interviews he's been dismissive of it saying that he takes responsibility for the lapses as he intends to attack.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

I'm sure he's a good enough coach to be able to improve Liverpools defence. I'm just not sure he's to inclined too. In many interviews he's been dismissive of it saying that he takes responsibility for the lapses as he intends to attack.

I don't think any of us should ever pay too much attention to managers' post match comments or news conferences.

After all, until replacements are in place and the "offenders" moved on, they can hardly come on and admit that any of their players are not up to the required standard when he may well need to rely upon those players in forthcoming games.

Obviously Rodgers will reiterate his intention to attack, that is the strength of his present team, but away from the public's gaze he is likely to be working to correct defensive shortcomings.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Not sure we should still be discussing LFC in this thread

 

[Papas1982]

I don't think any of us should ever pay too much attention to managers' post match comments or news conferences.

After all, until replacements are in place and the "offenders" moved on, they can hardly come on and admit that any of their players are not up to the required standard when he may well need to rely upon those players in forthcoming games.

Obviously Rodgers will reiterate his intention to attack, that is the strength of his present team, but away from the public's gaze he is likely to be working to correct defensive shortcomings.

Maybe, but I don't think the CBS they have are as bad as people think. Obv Carra has gone. But skirtel and agger were good defenders before this season. Obviously managers deflect attention, proof will be in the pudding over summer when he strengthens. Sakho certainly doesn't look good value ATM.

 

[shagster]

because i dont make many comments does not mean i do not look, and most articles i dont feel the need to comment
liverpool were a big team like many others in the past but not a big team nowadays
johnson always will be better in midfield, said that when he was at chelsea
only playing once a week since christmas has benefitted liverpool
saurez will most probably go to a bigger team
rodgers a good manager, but not in the special ones class, but he may get there one day, but he has made basic mistakes in trying to play against chelsea as if they were cannon fodder. the best defence needs more respect, and pool only needed a draw to garantee the league, as they would not have been so gun ho at palace, and i thought even the dim wit stevie me would have realised that against chelsea
as i stated earlier their best chance for 20 years and most probably next 20

 

[Deleted member 1740]

infortunately it appears Rodgers doesn't want to do the same. Rogers deserves great credit for what he's done at Liverpool. But unless other the summer he evaluates the season and accepts defence needs work. Next year could be a very hard season. The squad will need quite a few additions for a league assault and CL. Look at some of the teams who've played Europe for first time recently with small squads. Swansea, Newcastle and spurs league positions have fallen drastically with the extra footy. Liverpool currently have massive confidence in their style, but if a few defeats sink in early it could all change.

Im im not sure anybody on here has called rb a bad manager. I'd say naive maybe. Like you say, he needs to learn. Fast!

I honestly don't believe the defence isn't as bad as the goals against suggests. Because Rodgers likes to play the way we do we will always be open defensively thats the issue with playing so open.

To progress in europe you have to be flexible in your play and certainly be cautious. Don't forget United failed in europe over the years under Ferguson as he used to play the same way as united always did in the league.

I think Rodgers deserves credit for getting us from 30+ pts behind winners last season to within 3pts this season without spending a massive amount it would take most teams.

I still can't understand why he made that Moses for Sturridge substitution.

 

[Papas1982]

I honestly don't believe the defence isn't as bad as the goals against suggests. Because Rodgers likes to play the way we do we will always be open defensively thats the issue with playing so open.

To progress in europe you have to be flexible in your play and certainly be cautious. Don't forget United failed in europe over the years under Ferguson as he used to play the same way as united always did in the league.

I think Rodgers deserves credit for getting us from 30+ pts behind winners last season to within 3pts this season without spending a massive amount it would take most teams.

I still can't understand why he made that Moses for Sturridge substitution.

i agree, hopefully for Pool fans he'll learn and next year you'll progress even further. A strong Liverpool is good for the prem.

I think Europe will either been a hinderance if you don't improve squad or a help as more European night atmospheres can only encourage the team to earn it again and again.