What Would You Do?

There's a difference between 'being up for doing it' and actually doing it.

I can see the temptation, and it's probably good you didnt do it. In all likelyhood it wouldnt have made any difference, but you never know.

I'm more surprised someone openly suggested it as an option.
Yeah, the difference is whether someone else lets you isn't it??
 
I imagine it happens often. Committees aren’t exactly first class post when it comes to handicaps.
If I was to hand somebodys 3 cards in say Wednesday. He wouldn’t have his handicap for the weekend.
So in order for this somebody to have an handicap for the weekend I’d need to hand it in Friday or Saturday the week before but if the player only has two cards done but can’t fit a round in. I’m happy to do a similar card to his others to get him up for the weekend.
 
Slightly confused...but here goes

1. You. Your handicap either exists, or doesn't - if you didn't submit 3 qualifying scores in 2018 it will have lost it's (c) status which may, or may not, have implications to playing in some, or all, competitions at your new club. To regain the (c) status you need to submit 3 qualifying scores which can either be supplemental cards or, if permitted to enter, competition rounds. Scores have to be returned on a card by card basis because they immediately impact your handicap (both ways) and are therefore timely. For any supplemental you would need to comply with the club's procedures which will include prior notification of intent. If you joined this club over 12 months after leaving your previous club your previous handicap is now 'a Norwegian Blue'. You will now need to submit 3 cards for a new allocation, which should be made with reference to those 3 cards and knowledge of your previous handicap level.
2. New allocation cards. Not unusual to mask people to submit the 3 together for ease of administration but not best practice.
 
Duncan, what does the 'c' stand for as we were wondering this yesterday with one of our guys having a 'c' next to theirs.
 
Duncan, what does the 'c' stand for as we were wondering this yesterday with one of our guys having a 'c' next to theirs.
It means “competitive” - ie used to be called active , means you have three q rounds from the previous qualifying period and will be able to enter opens etc
 
Duncan, what does the 'c' stand for as we were wondering this yesterday with one of our guys having a 'c' next to theirs.
From the CONGU manual:
Competition Handicap
A Competition Handicap is a CONGU® Handicap of a player who has returned at least three Qualifying Scores in the current or previous calendar year. Such a handicap is annotated with a ‘c’ symbol after the numeric value of the handicap. Clubs may use the possession of a ‘c’ status handicap as a qualification for entry to competitions.
 
Another issue maybe... how can it be acceptable for them (players without a H/cap) to sign your cards?? The Club should have clear Conditions on this. & YES.... there is no doubt that you are cheating by not following the requirements.
 
Another issue maybe... how can it be acceptable for them (players without a H/cap) to sign your cards?? The Club should have clear Conditions on this. & YES.... there is no doubt that you are cheating by not following the requirements.

Why do you need a HC to be able to sign someone else’s card and be able to count their scores ?

As long as the other person is a member of the club then that should be ok - got to have trust
 
Why do you need a HC to be able to sign someone else’s card and be able to count their scores ?

As long as the other person is a member of the club then that should be ok - got to have trust
As you know the CONGU view is that each card must be marked and signed by a responsible person acceptable to the Handicap Committee - how handicap committees handle this varies! Some take the view that all their members are obviously responsible people; others chose to require them to hold a handicap in the belief that this reflects a greater level of responsibility in matters relating to golf!
No right answer (although I agree with your view) and the important issue remains whatever the relevant handicap committee decides!
 
Why do you need a HC to be able to sign someone else’s card and be able to count their scores ?

As long as the other person is a member of the club then that should be ok - got to have trust
It depends on your Clubs definition of a 'responsible person'...... are you really going to say that its ok for someone putting in their first cards for H/cap to be acceptable markers..... it's not so much trust, but rather more about having a clue what represents a 'fair' score card. Otherwise you could have new members signing each others cards to gain H/caps... or do you allow that? Not wishing to make the process difficult but you surely owe it to your Members to have some measure of 'vigor'
 
It depends on your Clubs definition of a 'responsible person'...... are you really going to say that its ok for someone putting in their first cards for H/cap to be acceptable markers..... it's not so much trust, but rather more about having a clue what represents a 'fair' score card. Otherwise you could have new members signing each others cards to gain H/caps... or do you allow that? Not wishing to make the process difficult but you surely owe it to your Members to have some measure of 'vigor'
Why wouldn’t someone who is putting cards not be acceptable markers ? Surely if you are trusting them to join the club and uphold the values of golf you trust them to sign a card and keep count for a player

Is someone putting in cards untrustworthy then ?
 
I think you hooked a few with this one crazyface 🤣
 
To make up a score is cheating , and yes you can go up and down when making your handicap active again

How can you say you weren’t party to it but yet were up for doing it

I said, if you read, my playing partners weren't up for it, but seeing as I'm just re-activating my H/C, and to add another rider to this I didn't think it mattered ie wouldn't / couldn't affect my inactive H/C, that I would be. So does anyone actually know if it actually does affect my H/C?
 
Cards used to reactivate your handicap will be used to adjust it.
So if the first of your 3 cards is crap you'll get 0.1 back, your second might be a corker and you get cut and your 3rd might be buffer...you'll go up 0.1 and down by whatever..to make your new "C" handicap.
 
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