What went wrong?

[turbowoowoo]

So 8:40 eventually came round and first tee shot of the Bogey comp...

5 wood nailed 230 yards just off the fairway on the, 170 in. 2 shanks later a wedge and three putts gave me an 7!!!

Was pretty cross with myself i must admit, then the story of teh day infolded.

No more shanks, drove beautifully and hit 60% of greens in regulation, but 3 putted 7 times!!! one that really hurt was the 218 yard par 3, hit a lovely 5 wood into the green 10 foot from the flag, and still 3 putted!

anyway ended up midfield...

one other thing I wanted to state was that one of my partners twice called wrong scores for two holes, I have not expereicned this in a comp before as people are generally very honest. I didnt challenge him just asked him again for his score... he came 4th!! and on both of those holes he would have been -1...

question is, would you challenge if the same scenario happened? I had never met the guy before either..

 

[chrisd]

one other thing I wanted to state was that one of my partners twice called wrong scores for two holes, I have not expereicned this in a comp before as people are generally very honest. I didnt challenge him just asked him again for his score... he came 4th!! and on both of those holes he would have been -1...

question is, would you challenge if the same scenario happened? I had never met the guy before either..

Always, always ask someone to confirm their score on a hole if they tell it wrong and if they still insist on a wrong score then ask them to run over the hole and recount each shot.

Some new golfers will forget a shot or maybe a tap in and I think all of us have miscounted on occasions. Someone who's not cheating will never mind being pulled up on this and I think that you owe it to all the other competitors not to accept what you know to be a wrong score


Chris

 

[turbowoowoo]

Chris you are right, I did ask him to confirm the score, but should have taken it further..

I feel quite cross with both the player in question and myself...

it wont happen again.. I just cant accept that people miss scores or miss count...

 

[chrisd]

Chris you are right, I did ask him to confirm the score, but should have taken it further..

I feel quite cross with both the player in question and myself...

it wont happen again.. I just cant accept that people miss scores or miss count...

The trouble is that you did accept it. If you know he did a 5 and claimed a 4 then you should ask hime to run through the shots and if he's not keen then do it out loud to him. After you have picked him up a time or two he will double check before he gives you the next scores.

And the main point is, if he's cheating as opposed to making a mistake, then he's not cheating himself but he is cheating everyone in the competition!


Chris

 

[Fyldewhite]

I think Chris makes the key point above which is that when you are marking someones card you are effectively the referee for the rest of the field. It is your duty to everyone else in the comp to ensure they play by the rules, drop in the right place, announce provisionals, oh, and count properly etc. Even though it may not be important in the context of the group, a lax decision could cost someone else a prize and may well have done so in this instance.

 

[bladeplayer]

Chris & Flyde have this pretty spot on as the score just doesnt affect your group .. i know some new members (Dont know if this includes you or not mate) are a bit aprehensive calling lets say established members up on infringements but you have to.. agreed someone could easily make a mistake but when corrected they should accept it ,, was there not a 3rd member in your group ?.. if your not happy with the score you are given then refuse to sign the card & if he wants to take it to the comp sec then so be it .. youl find not too many will do that

 

[chrisd]

I think Chris makes the key point above which is that when you are marking someones card you are effectively the referee for the rest of the field. It is your duty to everyone else in the comp to ensure they play by the rules, drop in the right place, announce provisionals, oh, and count properly etc. Even though it may not be important in the context of the group, a lax decision could cost someone else a prize and may well have done so in this instance.

Coo I wish I had written my piece as well as you put it, but, as you say, the sentiment is the same


Chris

 

[turbowoowoo]

Guys

You pretty much have nailed it on for me.. Yes new member this year and I know I should have pushed it further...

Part of me was thinking this guy is just cheatign himself, but as you rightly say they were cheating the whole field...

It wont happen again on my watch that is for sure...

 

[19thagain]

Well Mr Turbwoowoo, there will come a time when YOU will state the incorrect score and I trust the people recording it will not call you a cheat!

'Was that a six or a seven?' is quite common, or even forgetting that they have played three off the tee and think they have recorded a nice five..to be met with 'Aye Right!' can happen!

They are not CHEATS but human..you see, we all make mistakes!

Anyway enjoy your competition golf and please don't think that your playing partners are potential cheats or it will steal away a lot of your enjoyment. By all means question any score you cannot reconcile and the player will be only too pleased to reconsider because the last thing he wants is to be thought of as a cheat and, with respect, you have just labelled him as such!

 

[turbowoowoo]

Well Mr Turbwoowoo, there will come a time when YOU will state the incorrect score and I trust the people recording it will not call you a cheat!

'Was that a six or a seven?' is quite common, or even forgetting that they have played three off the tee and think they have recorded a nice five..to be met with 'Aye Right!' can happen!

They are not CHEATS but human..you see, we all make mistakes!

Anyway enjoy your competition golf and please don't think that your playing partners are potential cheats or it will steal away a lot of your enjoyment. By all means question any score you cannot reconcile and the player will be only too pleased to reconsider because the last thing he wants is to be thought of as a cheat and, with respect, you have just labelled him as such!

With all due respect everyone can count, and in a comp you make sure you give the correct score... if this happens once in a match then it is possibly acceptable, twice is not. For the record after these incidents I counted and stated every score he had before he had a chance to offer a different score.

But as has bee said previously it wont happen again with me...

 

[chris661]

For the record after these incidents I counted and stated every score he had before he had a chance to offer a different score.

Just write down on the card what the score is, if the guy is cheating he wont question it and if he isn't cheating it can be discussed at the end so as not to ruin anyones round.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Well Mr Turbwoowoo, there will come a time when YOU will state the incorrect score and I trust the people recording it will not call you a cheat!

'Was that a six or a seven?' is quite common, or even forgetting that they have played three off the tee and think they have recorded a nice five..to be met with 'Aye Right!' can happen!

They are not CHEATS but human..you see, we all make mistakes!

Anyway enjoy your competition golf and please don't think that your playing partners are potential cheats or it will steal away a lot of your enjoyment. By all means question any score you cannot reconcile and the player will be only too pleased to reconsider because the last thing he wants is to be thought of as a cheat and, with respect, you have just labelled him as such!

With all due respect everyone can count, and in a comp you make sure you give the correct score... if this happens once in a match then it is possibly acceptable, twice is not. For the record after these incidents I counted and stated every score he had before he had a chance to offer a different score.

But as has bee said previously it wont happen again with me...

I have to disagree. I've mis-counted and played with guys in comps who have done the same. If you called me a cheat on the basis of a simple mental mistake there would be strong words. I think it's pretty easy to spot the difference between a deliberate mistake and someone trying it on (met both in my time) but I'd handle them both the same and ask them politely to verify their score and if you disagree, explain why and ask them to confirm again. Usually they will realise their error and be fine about it. If it does get to a point where they are adamant, a) your other partner should be intervening by now and b) refuse to sign the card and take it up with the comp secretary at the end

 

[RGDave]

I think Chris makes the key point above which is that when you are marking someones card you are effectively the referee for the rest of the field. It is your duty to everyone else in the comp to ensure they play by the rules, drop in the right place, announce provisionals, oh, and count properly etc.

Spot on.