what do you think of this bandit, lol?

[HRC99]

SSS is set after the course is rated. They base the SSS on what a scratch golfer would/should score in "ideal" conditions.

Then why judge the CSS on what a 23 h/capper shoots?

It might sound petty but I'm just trying to get my head around it. For those at the lower end of the h/cap system (Cat1's) it really means a lot. Generally they've put their lives into the game, their kids suffer and their wives feel like widows... iisn't it important to get these things right, and somewhat in favour of those that live for golf?

A 27 h/capper might be cut 2 shots and back up to 27 a month later... someone off 2 or 3 should have as much in their favour as possible... shouldn't they?

To me it even boils down to simple things like cutting the greens and moving the pins, even raking the bunkers on the day of comps so that the lower h/cappers have the best opportunity to score to their h/caps or better. The 28 h/capper should also have the same opportunity but will probably notice the bestter conditions less.

If anything CSS should be based on what the Cat1 players shoot, nothing to do with the higher h/caps. If all the Cat1 players have a nightmare then one must assume the course is playing tough.

The CSS is weighted to what Cat 1 players score rather than the higher handicappers. That's why it doesn't tend to go up much unless the conditions were extreme.

I only found this out recently thanks to helpful people on here!

 

[thecraw]

Its determined because that 27 handicapper is entitled to 27 shots! CSS as I say is based on "ideal" conditions, therefore the 0 handicapper should in theory be able to put together as good a round as the 27 handicapper.

Yes I appreciate this "ideal" does not work very often however in this example at Burtisland its fairly clear that the SSS was as near as dam correctly worked out.


The fact that a 23 handicapper shot an 84 net 61 and a 1 handicapper bettered the 23 handicappers gross score by 20 shots to shoot a net 63 shows that the conditions were easier. If you also look at it this way, a 1st class golfer playing in these conditions was within 2 shots of a 3rd class golfer whom I don't know however I'd imagine it was their round of their life to date in a medal. You would imagine over the course of the season the 1st class golfer will be more consistent.

Again taking the example posted if you look at the top 5, 3 were first class players, one 2nd class and one 3rd class? How does it favour higher handicaps?

To me it shows the handicap and SSS system works and was correct.

 

[Parmo]

I once shot a net 57 with 49 points on 21 handicap, SSS65 par 70 on a 5250 yard course.

 

[jammydodger]

I dont think cat4 scores are taken into account for css are they ? Its mainly weighted towards the better players iirc

 

[FourPutt]

Only Cat 1 and Cat 2 golfers scores are taken into account when calculating CSS.

It also only goes up as high as 72 (at our place at least as that is 2 over par/SSS) before becoming "reduction only" where noone can go up 0.1.

I imagine with SSS 72 courses the CSS can go up as high as 74 before turning reduction only.

 

[jammydodger]

Last weekend the css went up to 74 from sss 72 , I have seen it go up 3 strokes before at a previous venue I played. That was a tough days golf I can tell you.