Was I right , Or a nosey so and so ?

[Whereditgo]

Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

How many times do you see this enforced though,you see players measuring 2 club lengths with there driver(longest club) ,then play there next shot with a different club??

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Technically they could say that now the ball is in a different position they are going to play a different shot.

 

[bladeplayer]

Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

How many times do you see this enforced though,you see players measuring 2 club lengths with there driver(longest club) ,then play there next shot with a different club??

[/QUOTE]was just gona ask that rob, rule says "the player should" does that mean he has a choice of club?? rather than if it said "the player must ..

 

[bobmac]

Staked tree.
You dont want to damage the tree, so move to the nearest place which isn't nearer the hole where you can swing the club you would use for that shot without damaging the tree.
Mark that spot(1)
Then take your longest club and measure one club from that first mark and mark that point.(2)
Then mark the original place where the ball lies, lift the ball and drop it in between 1 and 2. If it lands and rolls nearer the hole than the original position of the ball, lift it and drop it again. If it rolls nearer to the hole again, place it on the spot where it landed the second drop and the ball is in play.
As long as the ball lands in between the 2 marks it may roll up to 2 club lengths outside the marked area and still be in play.

And always get agreement from your playing partner about getting the drop in the first place.

 

[sweatysock41]

Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

How many times do you see this enforced though,you see players measuring 2 club lengths with there driver(longest club) ,then play there next shot with a different club??

Technically they could say that now the ball is in a different position they are going to play a different shot.

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Gents I think you are confusing the nearest point of relief with the club that can be used to measure one club length, which is almost always the driver as it is the longest.

A referee would soon notice if they were to say I was going to play a driver from this 5" long rough. The statement is there so that, for example if you were going to play lets say a hybrid, the point at which you can measure from i.e. the nearest point of relief must be where you can swing that club without interference - not the club you are going to use to measure one club's length.

Bob beat me by a minute - must be the delay from Singapore. He put far more eloquently than I could anyway.

 

[Whereditgo]

Bob, by "original place of the ball" do you mean spot (1) or by the staked tree?

 

[bobmac]

Where the ball came to rest from your previous shot.

 

[lee_leggett]

I think you have done the right thing.....

 

[Curls]

You definitely did the right thing and the clarification of the rules was a handy one, don't think I would have got it as far wrong as he did but wouldn't have had that quite right in my head so thanks for the recap.

 

[Mark_G]

Jammy, the chap you are talking about isn't Scottish is he?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think you were right although you needed to make the point to the guy and the partners I think. At least the pro said he'd have a word. I know a few that wouldn't want to get involved. At the end of the day you owe it to the field to report anything you consider to be a blatant infringment.

 

[viscount17]

'nearest point of relief' seems to cause so much trouble. we have those who think it entitles them to 'line of sight', others who go out of their way to make sure their stance will be obstructed (to get further relief) even though it's patently obvious that that shot would be 'unreasonable'

 

[Twire]

Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

How many times do you see this enforced though,you see players measuring 2 club lengths with there driver(longest club) ,then play there next shot with a different club??

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I think your getting confused here...2 club lenghts is a penalty drop and yes a driver can be used to measure this. A free drop is 1 club length from the nearest point of relief. You find the nearest point of relief with the club your going to play the shot with, then you can measure one club length from that point with your driver.


OP yes you did the right thing.

 

[jammydodger]

Jammy, the chap you are talking about isn't Scottish is he?

He didnt look at me with a Scottish accent so no he wasnt.

When I was starting to explain the rule to him it really just wasn't worth the effort as he clearly wasn't interested. You all know the sort. I'm going for a round tommorow morning so i'll see if there are any developments.

It was a bit of a dilemma cos you dont want to get a rep of being a nosey bugger and a rules tyrant if you know what I mean

@ Whereditgo - classic statement , maybe I should have suggested he start again cos the tee was free and no-one was behind.