Urgent Statement from PM today

[User62651]

Sky news website has a live GE voting poll, currently reading

Cons 40%
Lib Dems 32%
Labour 17%
UKIP 4%
Green 2%
SNP 3%

I would think Sky News is a reasonably neutral source even if owned by a right winger in Murdoch. It's a smallish sample so far but these figures don't surprise me and I wonder if this will be roughly where we are on 8th June? Talking point is the LibDem and Labour %'s for me. Lib Dems Brexit stance will be a vote catcher for them, how that translates to seats is another matter of course.
Far from a cut and dried result perhaps?

 

[Hacker Khan]

Sky news website has a live GE voting poll, currently reading

Cons 40%
Lib Dems 32%
Labour 17%
UKIP 4%
Green 2%
SNP 3%

I would think Sky News is a reasonably neutral source even if owned by a right winger in Murdoch. It's a smallish sample so far but these figures don't surprise me and I wonder if this will be roughly where we are on 8th June? Talking point is the LibDem and Labour %'s for me. Lib Dems Brexit stance will be a vote catcher for them, how that translates to seats is another matter of course.
Far from a cut and dried result perhaps?

I'll eat my hat and subscribe to The Daily Mail if those results occur (with hat eating slightly more of a attractive option of the two to me).

Would be nice to see the woolly liberals do well (IMHO as a libtard snowflake) but I think when push comes to shove they will get nowhere near as many votes as that.

 

[User62651]

I'll eat my hat and subscribe to The Daily Mail if those results occur (with hat eating slightly more of a attractive option of the two to me).

Would be nice to see the woolly liberals do well (IMHO as a libtard snowflake) but I think when push comes to shove they will get nowhere near as many votes as that.

Well easy to forget in this Govt and right wing press led 24/7 Brexit propaganda we can't escape that 48% didn't want it, you'd think it was 20% the way May behaves, that's a lot of potential votes for a non hard brexit option. Watch this space.

 

[ger147]

Sky news website has a live GE voting poll, currently reading

Cons 40%
Lib Dems 32%
Labour 17%
UKIP 4%
Green 2%
SNP 3%

I would think Sky News is a reasonably neutral source even if owned by a right winger in Murdoch. It's a smallish sample so far but these figures don't surprise me and I wonder if this will be roughly where we are on 8th June? Talking point is the LibDem and Labour %'s for me. Lib Dems Brexit stance will be a vote catcher for them, how that translates to seats is another matter of course.
Far from a cut and dried result perhaps?

The only number that matters above is 40% for the Torys. If they actually get 40% of the vote then they will romp the election with a large increase in their majority.

 

[Hacker Khan]

The only number that matters above is 40% for the Torys. If they actually get 40% of the vote then they will romp the election with a large increase in their majority.

Well yes and no. From a 1st past the post then yes it does. But arguably from a point of view of the country coming together and forming policy by some sort of consensus in the best interests of lots of people then the amount other parties get is also of relevance. IMHO.

 

[ger147]

Well yes and no. From a 1st past the post then yes it does. But arguably from a point of view of the country coming together and forming policy by some sort of consensus in the best interests of lots of people then the amount other parties get is also of relevance. IMHO.

Wouldn't it be great if that's what politics and general elections were about...

 

[User62651]

The only number that matters above is 40% for the Torys. If they actually get 40% of the vote then they will romp the election with a large increase in their majority.

Yep I agree that's very likely scenario but it depends on vote split a lot.

UKIP got 12% of UK votes and no seats last time whilst SNP won 56 seats of 59 in Scotland with exactly 50% of vote up here. Can go either way.

Tactical voting can help with that scenario and will happen up here against SNP this time, could happen down south too, people thinking if I dont want a Tory MP who has the best chance of unseating them and vote for them even though it's not their party of choice. That's what is bound to happen as the election is all about Brexit and little else.

 

[ger147]

Yep I agree that's very likely scenario but it depends on vote split a lot.

UKIP got 12% of UK votes and no seats last time whilst SNP won 56 seats of 59 in Scotland with exactly 50% of vote up here. Can go either way.

Tactical voting can help with that scenario and will happen up here against SNP this time, could happen down south too, people thinking if I dont want a Tory MP who has the best chance of unseating them and vote for them even though it's not their party of choice. That's what is bound to happen as the election is all about Brexit and little else.

If the Torys get 40% they will romp it, end of.

 

[Hobbit]

Well yes and no. From a 1st past the post then yes it does. But arguably from a point of view of the country coming together and forming policy by some sort of consensus in the best interests of lots of people then the amount other parties get is also of relevance. IMHO.

Unfortunately, in terms of the GE its only the first past the post that counts.

As for who will vote for who - purely anecdotal, but I am absolutely gobsmacked, totally stunned, to hear my better half saying she is going to vote Tory. Dyed in the wool Labour voter, and Remainer, daughter of a senior shop steward... voting Tory?!?!?

I asked why. Corbyn and Diane Abbott. We don't do politics in our house as she's always been hard Labour... I'm still stunned by her revelation.

I then asked about voting LibDem. Farron. He is way too arrogant with his blame and wheedling about Brexit! And she's a Remainer... I can't fathom it

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If there is a worse politician out there than Diane Abbott please post their name. She will cost Labour a stack of votes.

 

[User62651]

Same poll has now moved slightly to -

Cons 39%
Lib Dem 33%
Labour 17%
UKIP 3%

from 1,264 votes to date. Both hard Brexit parties down already, get in.

Poll does follow a Vince Cable article mind.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Tories got 36% last GE.
Tactical voting this time could make a big difference.
I also think many Tory/Stay voters will abstain, a couple of my Tory friends are saying they will not vote.
The strength of the Labour vote could also surprise us.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

One of the many problems for the Lib Dems over the years is that their votes are spread to widely. They come second too often, no real heartland. A high % vote does not necessarily translate into seats for them.

 

[Hobbit]

Tories got 36% last GE.
Tactical voting this time could make a big difference.
I also think many Tory/Stay voters will abstain, a couple of my Tory friends are saying they will not vote.
The strength of the Labour vote could also surprise us.

I'll go with you on the Labour vote. I think they're going to do way better than expected.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Unfortunately, in terms of the GE its only the first past the post that counts.

As for who will vote for who - purely anecdotal, but I am absolutely gobsmacked, totally stunned, to hear my better half saying she is going to vote Tory. Dyed in the wool Labour voter, and Remainer, daughter of a senior shop steward... voting Tory?!?!?

I asked why. Corbyn and Diane Abbott. We don't do politics in our house as she's always been hard Labour... I'm still stunned by her revelation.

I then asked about voting LibDem. Farron. He is way too arrogant with his blame and wheedling about Brexit! And she's a Remainer... I can't fathom it

yet the tories are full of humility......

 

[IanM]

Politics....no wonder folk are at loggerheads....

In the General Election Thread - the people slagging off the status quo are the very same people in the Brexit Thread desperate to retain it at all costs!

Elsewhere, the people protesting about shortages of hospital beds and school places are the very same people advocating "open border immigration."

Anyone else confused?

 

[Hobbit]

yet the tories are full of humility......

But the comment is about Farron. What the Tories are is relevant to Farron's behaviour in what way?

The Press association poll, published 5 hours ago and is a combination of all major polls has a 7 day average of;

Cons 46%
Lab 27%
LibDems 11%
UKIP 7%
Greens 3%

 

[ger147]

But the comment is about Farron. What the Tories are is relevant to Farron's behaviour in what way?

The Press association poll, published 5 hours ago and is a combination of all major polls has a 7 day average of;

Cons 46%
Lab 27%
LibDems 11%
UKIP 7%
Greens 3%

46% is a huge number, if the Torys get close to that they will have a huge majority.

 

[FairwayDodger]

46% is a huge number, if the Torys get close to that they will have a huge majority.

Which is a damning indictment of our electoral system.

 

[Hobbit]

Which is a damning indictment of our electoral system.

What worries me about a number like that has already been seen in Scotland. The SNP get about 50% of the vote but get 56 out of 59 seats. Equally, the electorate had a vote on proportional representation and, coupled with a mini-Project Fear, rejected it.