Old Skier
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Completely agree but it will get its bites from the blind.
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Completely agree but it will get its bites from the blind.
Doon frae Troon
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To reduce the yearly borrowing, then you have to do, one of two things or both :-
1) Raise more revenue (aka partly known as tax)
2) Reduce what you spend (aka partly known as austerity)
So which is it and how much are you going to pay to put right your personal percentage that you have not paid over the last few years? Sadly you can not have everything you want in this world or is there a magic wand
And your alternative would be more austerity which, if Tory policy carries on as it has done for the last seven years, seems to equate to more debt.
Personally I would be happy to pay more tax to Holyrood, but definitely not to Westminster
Old Skier
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I presume then you will not require any services that may be subsidised by the U.K. Government or are you just on one of your regular fishing trips.
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Was interested in seeing the Labour Party Election Broadcast at 6pm tonight on BBC1.
Much more polished and professional than normal.
Then an article about who isn't in any way responsible for a foiled terrorist attack in London today and I sussed it was the BBC News at 6!
Much more polished and professional than normal.
Then an article about who isn't in any way responsible for a foiled terrorist attack in London today and I sussed it was the BBC News at 6!
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Funny how you know my choice, thank you for telling me. Not even sure why you think you know my answer :mmm:
How much extra tax a year would you be willing to pay to help reduce the yearly borrowings?
Doon frae Troon
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Yes, strange one that, perhaps I read between the lines.
For Westminster, nil.
For Holyrood, what would be considered by the government as my fair share.
SocketRocket
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I would be happy to pay more tax to Westminster but not to Holyrood. They get too much from me already.
Hacker Khan
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Stolen from the Internet but sums it up for me
[FONT="]I would love to elect a government led by someone both competent and humane, but this option will not be on the ballot paper. The choice today is between brutal efficiency in pursuit of a disastrous agenda, and gentle inefficiency in pursuit of a better world. I know which I favour.[/FONT]
[FONT="]I would love to elect a government led by someone both competent and humane, but this option will not be on the ballot paper. The choice today is between brutal efficiency in pursuit of a disastrous agenda, and gentle inefficiency in pursuit of a better world. I know which I favour.[/FONT]
Sadly, I feel it falls down on affordability. I'd like to see a 1 year tax hike, with a promise to return to gentle tax rates. We all want a better NHS and social care system but how many of us are willing to pay for it?
How many are willing to give up their holiday in the sun for one year just to reconcile the NHS funding gap or to not reduce benefits?
We all want a well rounded, caring society but who is actually willing to take a 10% rise in tax to fund it?
Sounds great but when you ask someone what their annual tax bill is and then suggest they give up another 10% they baulk at it but if you tell them they'll need a £5000 operation this year and would they be willing to contribute £1000 towards it they immediately say yes.
Honestly, there's a lot of people out there that want a caring society but aren't willing to pay for it. And then it's the governments fault.
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It's not this Governments fault Bri, it's succesive Governments fault, Joe Public is sick of being lied to and everyone blaming everyone else, I know I'm day dreaming when I say it, but I genuinely wish all Party Manifesto's were legally binding, that way they'll only campaign on reality and are accountable.
ColchesterFC
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Maybe people would be more willing to pay more tax if they thought that big business were paying their dues as well. It seems it is too easy for the likes of Amazon, Star bucks etc to shuffle the paperwork around so that there tax bill bears no resemblance to their actual sales and profits in this country.
I agree wholeheartedly. Successive govts have shied away from difficult decisions by not including them in manifestos. They also put vanity projects into manifestos to win votes knowing full well they won't implement them.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Do you want a first class NHS or not? Yes the Starbucks of this world need chasing, which would limit personal tax hikes but do you support a 10% tax hike or not?
Dellboy
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So Scotland is going ahead with the referendum then :thup:
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Yes, strange one that, perhaps I read between the lines.
For Westminster, nil.
For Holyrood, what would be considered by the government as my fair share.
Have to laugh at how someone thinks they know from a few posts on a forum....Reading between the lines, assuming, guessing is not the wisest thing to do and is frequently incorrect....
Is your fair share another £1, £10, £100, £500, £750, £1000, £2500, £5000, £10000 or more a year ? How much would you be willing to pay, you haven't actually answered the question, true MP style answer
ColchesterFC
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What two wrongs?
IF the government showed that they were tackling tax avoidance by the big companies then yes I would be prepared to pay more tax myself. I don't think that at my level of income a 10% tax rise would be justified, or necessary, if the government clamped down on avoidance/evasion but I absolutely believe that those in society earning more should pay more.
Hacker Khan
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My wife does indeed look after tax and 'shuffle the paperwork' around for a very large global company. And the first thing is that it is legal and virtually impossible to stop unless they go over really the top, as we live in a globalised world where there will always be countries who use lower business tax rates to attract investment. The only way you could do this is have one rule for every country, and that will never happen. Hey, we have allegedly just made a great step forwards to enable us to set our own rules, so every country being able to do that must be a good thing yes??
Also the scale of all this 'magical billions of pounds of tax' sat unclaimed is vastly over exaggerated for political gain by parties and the media, who need to keep their readership very angry all the time about the state of the world. If anyone suggests they will fund a policy by chasing up the tax all these companies are allegedly avoiding then don't believe a word of it. It will never happen plus the amount gained would be nowhere near enough to fund any major policy or 'giveaway'.
jp5
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Well put.
Quite frankly if the country votes in May with an overwhelming majority then we deserve everything we get.
I've heard nothing but vacuous tautologies from her. Not a shred of policy on how to deal with the issues this country will face.
Having said that elections have been unpredictable of late, so at this stage I'd say it's a 50/50 toss up. Still hope for the "gentle inefficiency"
Tax avoidance isn't illegal. Blame successive govts for having a system that allows it. I don't blame any company that operates within the rules. They are doing nothing wrong. But I do blame a govt that allows an inequality/immorality to exist.
Some say that if you don't give those companies the tax breaks they go where they can get them. Rubbish! That only applies to manufacturing. Service industries and retailers need to operate where their markets are. But then you have the problem of taxing companies to the extent that their margin drops below a level that allows them to pay out the dividend to their shareholders, which leads to price rises... its a no win for the little man in the street.
As to the "justified, or necessary..." it still comes back to what sort of country do we want and are we willing to fund it? If we aren't willing to give up the tax dollars to fund a caring society don't cry foul of a govt that doesn't do it.
Hacker Khan
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Spot on. Also people probably underestimate how much of their pensions and savings are tied into the ability of these companies to keep making profits and please their shareholders. Not saying that is a reason to let them get away with some things, but we live in a very independent complicated financial world.
Doon frae Troon
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Well put.
Quite frankly if the country votes in May with an overwhelming majority then we deserve everything we get.
I've heard nothing but vacuous tautologies from her. Not a shred of policy on how to deal with the issues this country will face.
Having said that elections have been unpredictable of late, so at this stage I'd say it's a 50/50 toss up. Still hope for the "gentle inefficiency"
One of her recent factory visits was to an 'invited' audience after the workers had been sent home, and she could not even remember the name of the town she was in.
Does she take Tory voters for complete mugwumps.
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