Trojan Horse Schools.

[SocketRocket]

Its part of history and current affairs - shouldnt children be told about all different cultures in the world ?

Are you suggesting they weren't ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Are you suggesting they weren't ?

I dont believe i am suggesting that ?

Do we have any substance to back up the "Not given top grades due to school with all white children" remark yet ?

 

[SocketRocket]

I dont believe i am suggesting that ?

Do we have any substance to back up the "Not given top grades due to school with all white children" remark yet ?

I read the Telegraph. Not sure if that is a newspaper that has fair representation of the facts for you, I guess you will et me know though as you seem to be an authority on the subject.

Here is the article that I refer to, again you can decide for yourself if it has substance that satisfies your own moral high ground.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/10886904/All-pupils-deserve-a-basic-set-of-principles.html

 

[Rumpokid]

The story about the said school in Devon's Ofsted report, must belong in the realms of 'you couldn't make it up'.Parent's having to fund a trip away for multi cultural awareness..Baloney.Let the kids learn what they need to at that age,,,, and to some of the posters stop ramming politically correct, motivated mumbo jumbo at other contributors.
Yes i do read the Mail on Sunday,not midweek as i am to tight..Funny how it is always the first paper off the shelf up here in 'Little England'...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I read the Telegraph. Not sure if that is a newspaper that has fair representation of the facts for you, I guess you will et me know though as you seem to be an authority on the subject.

Here is the article that I refer to, again you can decide for yourself if it has substance that satisfies your own moral high ground.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/10886904/All-pupils-deserve-a-basic-set-of-principles.html

So where in the article does it state that a school wasnt given the top grade because there were just white children at the school ?

 

[Rumpokid]

..For the record, regarding the OP's thread.The stuff that has been going on at the schools being investigated is just plain wrong..Even the BBC has reported on it, so something must be amiss!

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think there has been the usual media sensationalism on this subject. I've no doubt its a case of no smoke without fire and probably there has been an element of this going on. Personally I would prefer my kids to be taught about all creeds and religions as well as atheist viewpoint and let them decide. Lets be honest, they are going to have integrate with far more races, religions and creeds than I ever did at the same age. In those days, Scots or Irish kids seemed novel and strange.

 

[Old Skier]

I dont believe i am suggesting that ?

Do we have any substance to back up the "Not given top grades due to school with all white children" remark yet ?

Not got anything to back that up but whilst a governor at the local college here in N Devon, the OFSTED inspectors did make a negative comment about the very low number of black and ethnic students attending the college. The fact that only a very low number of black and ethnics even lived in the area didn't seem to cut it with the dear chap.

 

[SocketRocket]

So where in the article does it state that a school wasnt given the top grade because there were just white children at the school ?

Did you not take in the following part of the article?

Once they do that, parents have been told, Payhembury Primary’s Ofsted rating could be upgraded from good to outstanding. The head teacher said that gaining a better understanding of multicultural Britain “was identified in our last Ofsted as being an area for development”.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Did you not take in the following part of the article?

Once they do that, parents have been told, Payhembury Primary’s Ofsted rating could be upgraded from good to outstanding. The head teacher said that gaining a better understanding of multicultural Britain “was identified in our last Ofsted as being an area for development”.

I did indeed - but again it doesnt really fullfill your headline.

Maybe the school doesnt have a good understanding about multi cultural Britain ( which again isnt dependant on anyones skin colour ) . Britain is a multicultural society - in fact the world is - so if schools arent giving kids a good understanding of the various cultures ( not various skin colours ) and the way various people live in the world and how we are all integrating with one another and being tolerant of peoples culture and belief then maybe they should address that to allow the children to grow up more tolerant with each other.

but your headline or quote you posted was pretty much a joke and just highlighted peoples skin colour and nothing else

 

[ColchesterFC]

Maybe the school doesnt have a good understanding about multi cultural Britain ( which again isnt dependant on anyones skin colour ) . Britain is a multicultural society - in fact the world is - so if schools arent giving kids a good understanding of the various cultures ( not various skin colours ) and the way various people live in the world and how we are all integrating with one another and being tolerant of peoples culture and belief then maybe they should address that to allow the children to grow up more tolerant with each other.

But are we really a "multicultural society"? No matter what the Guardian reading, hemp wearing, yoghurt knitting Lefties may suggest we seem to be a selection of different cultures/faiths/religions living in cliques within one country. These schools in Birmingham are quoted as having >95% kids of an Islamic faith. How can this be considered integrating? In London Brixton has a large % of black residents, in Brick Lane it is Asian and in Golders Green it is Jewish. Surely being multicultural and integrating means that different cultures are living together rather than within their own little enclaves.

 

[Rumpokid]

but your headline or quote you posted was pretty much a joke and just highlighted peoples skin colour and nothing else.
What about the reported phrase 'White prostitutes'?..Is this teaching multi-culturalism?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

but your headline or quote you posted was pretty much a joke and just highlighted peoples skin colour and nothing else.
What about the reported phrase 'White prostitutes'?..Is this teaching multi-culturalism?

And what context is the phrase "White prostitute" being used - to describe someone who is white and is a prostitute perhaps ?

This is the initial quote

I see OFSTED have not given a top grade to a school in rural Devon due to the children all being white English.

As yet i have seen nothing in any article to suggest that a school was judged on the skin colour of the children at the school.

 

[Rumpokid]

And what context is the phrase "White prostitute" being used - to describe someone who is white and is a prostitute perhaps ?

This is the initial quote

I see OFSTED have not given a top grade to a school in rural Devon due to the children all being white English.

As yet i have seen nothing in any article to suggest that a school was judged on the skin colour of the children at the school.

You'd make someone a good wife, coz they are always right..You really can't see a connection in those 2 words being used by a 'teacher' in one of the investigated schools

 

[SocketRocket]

I did indeed - but again it doesnt really fullfill your headline.

Maybe the school doesnt have a good understanding about multi cultural Britain ( which again isnt dependant on anyones skin colour ) . Britain is a multicultural society - in fact the world is - so if schools arent giving kids a good understanding of the various cultures ( not various skin colours ) and the way various people live in the world and how we are all integrating with one another and being tolerant of peoples culture and belief then maybe they should address that to allow the children to grow up more tolerant with each other.

but your headline or quote you posted was pretty much a joke and just highlighted peoples skin colour and nothing else

The article was about a Devon school that had only white children. That is about skin colour. You may think multiculturalism is a force for good, I believe it creates divisions and is biased against the majority culture. We need people making their home in this country to integrate into its culture, not despise it. Kids from inner city schools dont have to be bussed to rural devon to experience the culture there, do they? Its almost becoming a crime to be a White British Christian these days.

I dont expect you to agree with anything I say as thats the way you are, you pose a question, get an answer, never give any credit or agreement on anything. When all else fails you then pull the 'Daily Mail' card.

 

[Rumpokid]

..Apparantly mono- cultural is the new multi-cultural c/o BBC.

 

[gmc40]

Did you not take in the following part of the article?

Once they do that, parents have been told, Payhembury Primary’s Ofsted rating could be upgraded from good to outstanding. The head teacher said that gaining a better understanding of multicultural Britain “was identified in our last Ofsted as being an area for development”.

I have to agree with Phil. That doesn't show that the grading was lower due to there being all white children. Nowhere in the article does it say that. I'm sure there are numerous schools across the country with outstanding ratings that have no or a very small minority of non white pupils.

 

[SocketRocket]

I have to agree with Phil. That doesn't show that the grading was lower due to there being all white children. Nowhere in the article does it say that. I'm sure there are numerous schools across the country with outstanding ratings that have no or a very small minority of non white pupils.

Read the following extract from the article!

"How else can we otherwise explain the extraordinary story reported at the weekend from Payhembury, a village in Devon whose population is, unsurprisingly, almost entirely white?
Children at the local primary school are to be taken to London for a two-day mini-break so that they can see people who don’t look like them."

Do you still think the article does not infer the children are white?

 

[gmc40]

Read the following extract from the article!

"How else can we otherwise explain the extraordinary story reported at the weekend from Payhembury, a village in Devon whose population is, unsurprisingly, almost entirely white?
Children at the local primary school are to be taken to London for a two-day mini-break so that they can see people who don’t look like them."

Do you still think the article does not infer the children are white?

I didn't say the article didn't infer the children were white. Of that I have no doubt. What I am saying is that the children being white is not given as the reason for the lower Ofsted rating. That is a separate thing entirely although your original post on the topic stated it was the reason. Post 14 on page 2 from Hacker Khan seems a good explanation.

 

[Tashyboy]

For someone to suggest that religion should not be taught in schools beggars belief. Religion should be taught in schools but not just the one. If you are not educated re Christianity, Muslim, Sikh, Buddhism etc etc then how can you have an understanding of what a persons beliefs are based upon.

What does disgust me re this Trojan horse scenario is children are in any other language being groomed in Muslim extremism.

It is not a witch hunt to find out who these people are either send them down or deport them if guilty.

theres no place in this so called multicultural society for this to be allowed in our schools.