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Tiger to be DQ'd?

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Isn't there a rules official following? If they see a breach should they not 'referee' as a rules official and penalise the biggest player in the field on the spot, as they did with the slow play penalty on the smallest?
They are rules officials, not referees.
Not asking for a ruling does not absolve Tiger from breaking the rules. This is golf, not football.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he DQ's himself before play today.
 

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So the question will be, what is "near as possible". Is 2 yards ok? Is 1 yard ok? Is 2 feet ok? Well none of them are "as near as possible", so the only solution would be everyone that drops not directly ontop of their last shot is penalised.
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Rule 27-1 does not require the player to drop the ball directly on the spot from which the ball was last played. It simply requires it to be played from as near as possible to that place. I expect that is in recognition of the obvious difficulty of finding the exact spot from which you played. With the best will in the world, we are often liable to be a yard or more out in where we play from because of that difficulty and I reckon that "as near as possible" cannot be applied as exactly as many of the above posts suggest.

But what I don't understand is what on earth he meant by "So I went back to where I played it from, but I went two yards further back and I took, tried to take two yards off the shot of what I felt I hit".
 
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Rule 27-1 does not require the player to drop the ball directly on the spot from which the ball was last played. It simply requires it to be played from as near as possible to that place. I expect that is in recognition of the obvious difficulty of finding the exact spot from which you played.

Shouldn't be too much of a problem finding where he played his shot from. I understand he hit a wedge, I'd expect a divot weighing several kilos to have been removed :confused:
 

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Rule 27-1 does not require the player to drop the ball directly on the spot from which the ball was last played. It simply requires it to be played from as near as possible to that place. I expect that is in recognition of the obvious difficulty of finding the exact spot from which you played.

That's not the case, as he has stated himself in his interview, "I went back to where I played my last shot and THEN went back a further 2 yards"!
 

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If this happens this will be the day the Masters dies!

Why?

Because someone who broke the Rules gets penalised?

He's admitted dropping 2 yards behind the "original" spot.
You simply can't do that.
You have to drop as close as possible if you're going to replay the shot.
In who'se World is 2 yards as close as possible?

And I'd be saying this if it was Phil, Lee, Luke or anyone else.

There's going to be some pretty close inspection of the footage.....
 

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True but I believe the nearest point should be where it strikes the course, in which case he can't say that went back another 2 yards ... if it rolls the 2 yards then ok, but he must attempt to drop from nearest to the original place.

To be honest I hadn't realised what he said in his interview, having heard that I can't see how they can not DQ him.
 

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Shouldn't be too much of a problem finding where he played his shot from. I understand he hit a wedge, I'd expect a divot weighing several kilos to have been removed :confused:

The problem is not finding roughly where your shot was played from and the rule only requires our best effort to be as close as possible. Try going back and deciding which of 10 divots close to where you played from is yours. ;)
 

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The problem is not finding roughly where your shot was played from and the rule only requires our best effort to be as close as possible. Try going back and deciding which of 10 divots close to where you played from is yours. ;)

Everyone is missing the point here, he admits to knowing where he took his last shot from because in his own interview he qualifys that by say "I went back a further 2 yards and then took that off the stroke", you simply cannot do that
 

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Also sure that even tho a it's a supposed rumour our news people would've highlighted it already if there was a slight chance of this happening
 

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Why?

Because someone who broke the Rules gets penalised?

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No, because the world,incl all the official and unofficial rules officials, must have watched a clear breach and did nothing about it until someone tweets about it. His interview admits it, still nothing. So now if they do DQ him what message does that send?
 

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Everyone is missing the point here, he admits to knowing where he took his last shot from because in his own interview he qualifys that by say "I went back a further 2 yards and then took that off the stroke", you simply cannot do that

Not missing that point at all - just exploring the rule and puzzling over what he actually meant.
 

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This might be all over twitter over some guys observation....But i think that people might be getting a little carried away yet....If it was as big as everyone is making it out to be then it would be all over this mornings papers and over the internet.......Im struggling to find anything on the subject at all.
 

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It's around - I first saw it referred to this morning in a golf referee's forum - and it's big enough not to go away. By the way, it would have happened too late for the morning papers to pick up, don't you think?
 

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This might be all over twitter over some guys observation....But i think that people might be getting a little carried away yet....If it was as big as everyone is making it out to be then it would be all over this mornings papers and over the internet.......Im struggling to find anything on the subject at all.

Well GM are tweeting and asking the question now, so, were leading it as an exclusive ;)
 

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It's around - I first saw it referred to this morning in a golf referee's forum - and it's big enough not to go away. By the way, it would have happened too late for the morning papers to pick up, don't you think?

As I stated its not on text or sky sports news or sky news. If there was a slight chance the biggest name in golf was or is about to be DQed it would've been stated by now. In my opinion it won't happen
 

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As I stated its not on text or sky sports news or sky news. If there was a slight chance the biggest name in golf was or is about to be DQed it would've been stated by now. In my opinion it won't happen

How do you know there are not meetings and calls going on in the background as we speak, especially due to the time difference. Someone will run it very soon I think, they'll be just covering themselves first, dotting the I's and crossing the T's.
 

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As I stated its not on text or sky sports news or sky news. If there was a slight chance the biggest name in golf was or is about to be DQed it would've been stated by now. In my opinion it won't happen

Masters officials to review the matter on Saturday morning. Thats still a few hours away over there.
 
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